MINUTES OF MEETING LAKE ASHTON
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT
The regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of the Lake Ashton Community Development District was held on Friday, November 10, 2017 at 9:00 a.m. at the Lake Ashton Clubhouse Ballroom, 4141 Ashton Club Drive, Lakes Wales, Florida 33859.

Present and constituting a quorum:

Carol Pontious Borden Deane Brenda VanSickle Michael Costello Bob Ference
Also present:
George Flint Andrew d'Adesky Tricia Adams Alan Scheerer Garold Williams
Numerous Residents
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS

Chairman Vice Chairman
Assistant Secretary Assistant Secretary Assistant Secretary

District Manager District Counsel Community Director
Field Operations Manager Community Watch Solutions

Roll	Call	and	Pledge	of Allegiance

Mr. Flint called the roll and established a quorum was present and Ms. Pontious
led the pledge of allegiance.

Ms. Pontious: Thank you for joining us this morning, this is a very special day. It is also a holiday so all these people should be home doing what it is that they would be enjoying today but they are here with us because of not wanting to change the meeting date. So we thank them for doing that. It is also Veterans Day and we are having a salute to the veterans at 10:30. We are hoping to be able to get to end the meeting before that time. So if you have comments that are pertinent to today's meeting please give them to us. We are interested in hearing those. If you have generic things that we handle next month please leave them and we will take care of them then so we can get to the ceremony at 10:30.

Mr. Ference: I make a motion that we adjourn at 10:30.

Mr. Deane: Whether we are done or not.
Ms. Pontious: We are going to try really hard.

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS	Audience Comments on Specific

Items on the Agenda (speakers will fill out a card and submit it to the District Manager prior to beginning of the meeting)
Ms. Pontious: Audience comments, I have two. The first one is from Allen Goldstein. Mr. Goldstein: Good morning. The first thing I would like to say today is the
Marines 242nd Birthday and I would like to wish Alan a happy birthday, a marine and Sergeant Fuller and any other Marines in the room. Semper Fi. Happy Birthday. Ok my comment and I will make it quick. I am not going to read it because it is going to rehash what I said last month but I was a little disappointed. First I want to say though this is a not an attack on GMS or any individual or anybody else. The only thing that I asked for last month is for a bid process to be laid in to whoever is going to be our District director, etc. etc. By law under 190.7216 it is required that you people, the elected officials of Lake Ashton and you are elected in the state and you are responsible not only for what is going on here but for our tax money that pays for these amenities. Without you making decisions first and approving all expenditures including hiring, firing, salaries, job duties, etc. we are not operating correctly. So I am asking you, I would like you to discuss it this month because I don't see it on here. I just see the amenities policy, please put it on your schedule next month to discuss a bid process seeing that we are bidding on everything else in here. Let's do this. Wish you all a happy holiday.
Ms. Pontious: The next person is Mr. Fred Stone.
Mr. Stone: Good morning. My name is Fred Stone. I am a resident here and also Lake Ashton Veterans Association Commander. This is in reference to your amenities policy. We had written a letter here in reference to the auxiliary of the Lake Ashton Veterans Association. When it was first initiated, the Lake Ashton Veterans Association here, it was a short time after that we activated an auxiliary as a sub of the Lake Ashton Veterans Association. As of May through a vote through our membership that the LAVA

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Auxiliary does not exist anymore. It was voted by membership unanimously to dissolve that. We had a sent a letter requesting that any reference to the LAVA auxiliary be removed on any kind of published newsletter, the Lake Ashton Times because as of May they do not exist any longer. So I am asking to please remove that particular sub of the Lake Ashton Veterans Association off of any documentation.
Ms. Pontious: That is a shame, this is Veterans Day.
Mr. Stone: We are just asking the Board to please make sure that gets done. I am not sure if you got a copy of the letter.
Ms. Pontious: I don't think we have but we will take a look at the situation and we will address it.
Mr. Stone: Please get back to me. Thank you.

THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS	Volunteer	Recognition	for
Hurricane Irma CERT Responders
Ms. Pontious: We are going to begin our meeting on a more positive note with the presentation of a great deal of thanks to the CERT volunteers who stepped forward during the hurricane preparation and follow-up to protect our community. I have a list of names. We will be calling you individually to come to the front and we will present you with our upmost thanks for all your service. Let me explain what we are doing. CERT is Lake Ashton's lead group in responding after disasters. Lake Ashton sees firsthand the positive impact the volunteers following events from hurricanes like Irma. From training with Polk County safety personnel to activating following Hurricane Irma, Brian Doss and other volunteers were instrumental in public safety efforts. The Board is proud to recognize these individuals for their service helping throughout Lake Ashton following Hurricane Irma. Bryan Doss the team leader and all responders were available to provide and coordinate assistance after the storm. Volunteers were at the heart of the response efforts and Lake Ashton is grateful for the many hours they trained to help our community recover and return to the best retirement lifestyle possible and as quickly as possible following the disaster. Bryan Doss is not a resident of our community but he has stepped forward to lead this group and to make sure that they have everything that they need to

aid in the response. We appreciate him as well. So Bryan we would like to introduce you. This is a certificate of recognition for your service to our community and to the CERT program. Thank you very much. Stu Neuberger. Congratulations and  thank  you.  Carolyn Neuberger. I am not seeing Ted Hall? Is he here? So no Ted and no Lynne. Rose Crognale. How about Lou Crognale? Kent Faughander. Anthony DeSimone. Deborah Foulke. Jim Carlin, Don Fuller, Joe Jusaites, Sil Wells, Rachel Kane, Leslie Adamo, and Claude Brown. We thank these people for their service. Tricia would like to have a picture and we will make sure that the people who are not here will receive their certificate.

FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Approval of the Minutes of the
October 13, 2017 meeting
Ms. Pontious: Alright we need to approve the minutes from the October 13, 2017 meeting. Do we have any additions or corrections? We need a motion please.

On MOTION by Mr. Deane seconded by Mr. Ference with all in favor the minutes of the October 13, 2017 meeting were approved as-presented.

FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Engineers Report
Ms. Pontious: Do we have any words of wisdom from Rey?
Mr. Flint: No there was nothing on the agenda. Rey is in Puerto Rico helping his mother-in-law. He was onsite last week inspecting the work to the storm water system and he has provided a punch list for that but no report today.
Ms. Pontious: Do you know how far we are on the punch list?
Ms. Adams: I believe from the list of items that was approved at the April or May meeting there is one item that is still pending. Other than that all of the storm water work, all of the curb work and all of the asphalt repairs have been made.
Ms. Pontious: Ok thank you.

SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Unfinished Business
Discussion on Amenities Policies
Ms. Pontious: We are doing the amenities policy review. Hopefully for the last time for a while. Do we have any additions or corrections?

Ms. VanSickle: I do. On page 2, I thought that we discussed that ID cards were going to move to may be required to will be required. It still says "may". On page 2 it says ID cards may be issued to all members. Then under #1 Identification cards then on 5, patrons and guests may be required.
Ms. Adams: I remember there was specific discussion about what kind of identification could be used. My understanding from the Board discussion was that people using the amenities should have a guest pass, a resident identification or government issued identification that had their Lake Ashton address.
Ms. VanSickle: Yes, but will be required not may be required.
Mr. d'Adesky: I think that the differences in other areas of the policy it is shall but I think the reason why may because this isn't required. The one I think that you are talking about here is line #1, it says ID cards may be issued. I guess that is why. It is about issuing. On #5 we can change it to shall.
Ms. Pontious: Anything else?
Ms. VanSickle: Yes page 10, #18. We discussed this at length about food will be prohibited and must be from the restaurant. I thought we said pool snacks were alright. Pizza, the family could have pizza one night a week. I would like to see that taken out there. The alcohol we discussed. It has to be served by the restaurant but I don't think food and snacks need to be. Pizza one night a week.
Ms. Pontious: We already have alcohol there. Wejust need to take out that sentence.
Mr. d'Adesky: That is fine. I don't know why that didn't make the cut. I will just delete their food other than water.
Ms. VanSickle: One thing that we discussed that we didn't need to change but was an enforcement issue was with the clubs. I would like not today because I know we are on a timeframe but I would like to know how that can be enforced.
Ms. Pontious: The club issue?
Ms. VanSickle: Yes we talked about the definition of clubs.
Ms. Adams: I think one of the issues that you brought up was where it defines the club members must be residents of Lake Ashton. I know you specifically brought up for

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example the Republican Club or some of those groups. My understanding from the groups that in order to become a member of the club they must be a Lake Ashton resident. The do from time to time have guests that are not residents who attend their meetings.
Ms. VanSickle: I think it is a fine line and slippery slope. Yes they can have a guest but if a guest is attending on a regular basis, I think we have an issue. Our first priority is to the people that pay these dues. I think we are sliding in a couple of areas. We have a couple clubs here and couple on the other side. Our responsibility is to this side so I would like to see us clean those up. We have people that pay that $1,700 and those services are for them.
Mr. d'Adesky: I understand the issue.
Ms. VanSickle: I just want us to enforce our policy. Mr. Ference: Has someone been abusing?
Ms. VanSickle: Yes.
Mr. Ference: I was going to say that club that has been abusing should be reminded. Ms. VanSickle: That is why I am afraid it is becoming the norm. I think if you let something slide too often it becomes the norm. Like I said we have a responsibility to
our residents that pay that fee. They are entitled to those services.
Ms. Pontious: I think this happens for a couple of reasons. They have family or friends in the area and they bring them once or twice and then they just start coming on a regular basis. Or they have lived here at one time and moved away and now they are still remaining active in some organizations and things going on here.
Ms. VanSickle: They come for another event and they see activities going on, gee that sounds good, maybe I will try that out. It is becoming an issue I think we need to address.
Ms. Pontious: Another reason to have the IDs so we know who is acceptable and who is not. We can deal with that next month, you are saying?
Ms. VanSickle: Yes.
Ms. Pontious: Anything else on the documents? Are we ready to make an approval of the document with the changes that have been suggested today?

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Ms. VanSickle: Approval as amended. Mr. Deane: Second.

Ms. Pontious: So we have a motion by Brenda and a second by Borden to approve the amenity changes that we have been making over the last couple of months and move forward including the changes made for today.
On MOTION by Ms. VanSickle seconded by Mr. Deane with all in favor the Amenities Facilities Policies with changes made today (November 10, 2017) was approved.

SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS New Business and Supervisors
Requests
    A. Consideration of Resolution #2018-01 Amending the Fiscal Year 2017
General Fund Budget
Ms. Pontious: We have Resolution #2018-01.

Mr. Flint: I sent an email to you late yesterday afternoon with a revised resolution. I also provided you a copy of it this morning. Every year if the total expenditures of the District exceed the total budget you are required within 60 days of the end of the fiscal year to amend the budget. What we have presented to you is a proposed amendment, the revised one and I will talk about the difference between this one and what was in your agenda. The revised one that you have is recognizing some additional revenue of

$42,000. That is comprised of entertainment fees, newsletter ad revenue and rental income. Each of those line items are actual revenue which exceeded our budgeted revenue. On the expenditure side we are proposing an adjustment to the gate attendant line and the special events line. The gate attendant line is if you recall early spring we decided to bid out security services jointly with Lake Ashton II. We hired Community Watch Solutions. The hourly rate was slightly higher than the predecessor. Then also the roving patrol increased from 12 hours to 18 hours so that was after the budget was adopted. So our actual expenses exceeded what was adopted going into fiscal year 2017. Then obviously special events we got additional revenue. We also had some additional expenses. The Board had made a discussion to subsidize the entertainment series to a certain extent to get higher level events in. So we're recommending an increase in that

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line item. The prior version of this also had an adjustment to field management services. Field management services are comprised of the cost of the amenity staff. That is your amenity management contract that you have with GMS. There is two components. One is the amenity staff and the other is the field management services provided by Alan. The way that contract is set up is it is for part-time employees, it is 1. 25 times their actual wages and for a full-time it is 1.5 times their actual wages. During the course of the year because of overtime and other issues we exceeded the budget by about $10,000. That was in the initial budget amendment. That went directly from our accounting group to the recording secretary. Unfortunately I didn't see it before it went in the agenda. After reviewing that and Ms. VanSickle had asked a question about it, we made a decision to remove it from here and GMS is going to reimburse the District for that overage.
Ms. Pontious: Thank you. I want to say under this topic, they are not all here
today because ofthe holiday, but we have a phenomenal staff. Part of their responsivity is this revenue and the generating of that revenue. Some of it comes from the residents yes but I think Valerie has done an outstanding job with the newsletter and making sure that our expenses are being met there and bringing in other things. We really need to commend her for that. As well as all of our staff that sells the tickets, does all the work that is involved in processing all this money. It just doesn't come and go. Somebody has to handle it. I am really appreciative of the people that do that for us. So do we need a motion for this?
Mr. Flint: Yes, please.
Mr. Ference: I will make a motion to accept. Ms. VanSickle: Second.
Ms. Pontious: We have a motion from Bob and a second from Brenda to approve Resolution #2018-01 for the adjustment in our general fund in the revenue and expenditure section.

On MOTION By Mr. Ference seconded by Ms. VanSickle with all in favor Resolution #2018-01 Amending the Fiscal Year 2017 General Fund Budget was approved.

Consideration of Joint CDD Meetings (requested by Supervisor VanSickle)
Ms. Pontious: Ok Ms. Brenda, you have an item of discussion here.
Ms. VanSickle: One of these that was brought up last time I think it was Mike and I think Jim added onto it suggesting that maybe we work through some of our issues with the West by holding a joint meeting. I would like to see us go forward with that. I don't think they meet again until December so we may be looking into the January or February timeframe. What is the best way to do it?
Mr. Flint: This District meets monthly. That District basically meets quarterly. At the December meeting since you meet every month, I could request that the Chairman and I think Jim indicated that he wanted to add that to the December agenda. So at that time if you want to state a preference as to when you want those meetings to take place since they meet less often and you have more flexibility because you meet every month you might want to wait and see what they recommend at their meeting.
Ms. VanSickle: Yes, let's work with them to find a good time. I think I would like for all ten of us to be there. I think that is very important. We can work up an agenda of things we need to work on. I think it could be very helpful.
Mr. Flint: Ok.
Ms. Pontious: Ok work on that to present to your December meeting then please. Mr. Flint: I think Jim had already planned to.
Ms. Adams: He is here.
Ms. VanSickle: I have a couple of Supervisor requests too. I will make them real brief. Residents have been after me for some things. Sal Taboni says we need more chairs by the pool and looking around I thought at one point we didn't have room for anymore but it looks like there may be some missing. If we could check into that.  See what we can do about that. Last time I talked about access to the media when staff is not here. I would like to discuss that next month because that is a very important issue too. I also next month I would like an update from Mike. I think you were working with Tricia on the hurricane update. I would like to see that next month. I think we need to work on transparency. Everything that goes on I think needs to be on our website. Updating of

the website, someone asked me point blank why the Board runs the West and the East is run by staff.  I said if you look onsite we have a flow chart how we are supposed to be working. They came back to me and they couldn't find it. I said you go and click here. When you click here you go to the resource center then you have to  look for it.   It is terribly outdated. So last night I spent about an hour going through our website. There is a lot that needs to be updated. Requests for day trips, do we have a means of accepting residents requests?  Several residents have made requests.  I would like to see us discuss card access again because during the hurricane when we did not have access to this building I think that would have made it a lot easier for residents to access. I took offense to the comment that we don't want people bowling during a hurricane.  I think we are all adults here and we can make that decision for ourselves. I would like to add what Al said, I don't know that I am ready to bid out our onsite management. I think we have some issues and I would like to see that on our agenda next month. I think you get used to doing something a certain way and maybe that is not always the best way.  When you talk about overtime I would like to see our staff staggered so that this building is covered more of the time. I would like to look at that contract, the job descriptions, and see what works well and what we may need to work on to improve.   I am done.
Mr. Ference: Is there a problem with the way the staff is functioning that we must
revisit their job description? Are they not functioning to our satisfaction? Is there some delinquency in the way that this building is being managed?
Ms. VanSickle: There are things that aren't working as well as they could be. I would like to see those addressed.
Mr. Ference:  For instance?
Ms. VanSickle: I don't want to get into it right now because we have other stuff to go into but I would like it to be on the agenda for next month. If you would like a list I would be happy to provide you with one.
Mr. Ference: I think we should all get that list.
Mr. Costello: One of the things that Al brought up was by statute we are supposed to look at other companies and bid it out. Is it true?

Mr. d'Adesky: That is not the law. To clarify, there are certain things that absolutely do need to bid out. If you wanted to buy parts, a bag of light bulbs that cost over $25,000 you would have to bid that out.
Mr. Costello: The statute that he apparently brought up I don't think he pulled it out ofthe air. I think he had to have gotten it from somewhere.
Mr. d'Adesky: It exists. There is a requirement that we bid out certain provisions under the law. However certain contractual services such as security, which actually comes up very handy in the West when we had a potential bid protest in the West. The statute does not require bidding for security services. Now it can be a best practice to sometimes bid things out. That is why you do it because you want to get competitive bids. You want to see who is out there. Sometimes certain services are bid out. Occasionally when a District is formed they will bid out management services but as I said during thelast meeting, it is very commonto retain managers for an extended period of time.
Mr. Costello: I don'twantit misunderstood that I am looking to push anything but by the same token Allen Goldstein has to have more information. Can we let him talk?
Mr. d'Adesky:  That is your prerogative as a Supervisor if you want to do that. Mr. Costello: That is up to the Chair.
Ms. Pontious: I think Brenda has recommended that we deal with this next time and that probably would be a good idea. Just remember to that all of these services at one point in time have been bid out.  It is just that we don't have to be rebidding them if we are happy with what we have and we are continuing to work on things.
Mr. Costello: I understand what you are saying but at the same token this community as a whole just went through a government special courtto get out of something that went on it perpetuity.  My question is, is there a law? This is what I am concerned about. Is there a law that says we should be biddingthis out at different intervals?
Mr. d'Adesky: And I am saying and I am telling you clearly there is no law that requires you to do that. There is a law and then there is best practice. Then there is what you  might  want  to  do  optionally.    You  can  choose  to  do  something.    That  is  your

discretion but there is no law that requires management services, legal services, or security services to be bid out on regular increment.
Mr. Ference: We chose to delegate some of those functions to our management company. That was a choice we made some time ago. We are not requiring individually to do so but we have the power to delegate that right. We so delegated. Now if we are not happy with that delegation that is another question but having done that, are we unhappy with that power?
Ms. VanSickle: There are things that we need to look at and correct. I think me personally talking about security, our previous security firm we were with them for a long time before we decided to bid that out. There were issues that we worked on and worked on. I would rather take the  approach that we fix something before we have to  bid it out.
Mr. Ference: What do you think needs to be fixed?
Ms. VanSickle: I think you want to be out of here by 10:30.  I have documentations here. I will ask George to send it out.
Mr. Ference: Very good.
Mr. Costello: Quite honestly I feel that the management company, personally I don't have a problem with anything at this time but at the same token you are saying that we don't have a legal mandate.
Mr. Flint:   My company manages almost 140 CDDs and we are familiar with the purchasing requirements. There isn't any. For maintenance landscaping you have to do it, engineers you have to do it, some goods and services you have to do it.
Mr. Costello: I realize that. I realize if you go over a certain amount if you are a penny over you better have competitive bids on it.
Mr. Flint:  Engineering you have to do it.  Architectural services you have to do it but legal, management, and security there are certain items that aren't required.
Mr. d'Adesky: Thelawis clear on those. This is not like a Puerto Ricono bid situation.
Mr. Costello: You are an attorney, I will take your word. If Mr. Goldstein comes back with other information, something to contradict what you are saying, then by all
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means we are going to have to look at it. You are the attorney. We are paying you, I will take you at your word.
Mr. d'Adesky: I wouldn't not let us bid something. I would require you to bid everything. I am the number one captain of bids.
Mr. Costello: That is probably where your malpractice insurance probably kicks in. Mr. d'Adesky: Oh yeah.
Ms. VanSickle: You say we delegate. We delegate a lot of things but the buck stops with this Board. Anything that goes wrong in this community the bottom line is we are responsible so we need to stay on top of what is going on and what is not going on. That is our job.
Mr. Costello: I agree with Brenda.
Mr. Ference: I didn't know we were in so much trouble. Ms. VanSickle: You need to fix it before it mushrooms.
Mr. Ference: Well we need a list of what needs to be fixed. Geez I must be living somewhere else.
Ms. Pontious: Ok do we have anything else under Supervisor requests?

EIGHTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Monthly Reports
Attorney
Ms. Pontious: Andrew do you have anything else for us today?
Mr. d'Adesky: Nothing additional.

Community Director
Monthly Report
Quarterly Security Data
Surplus Disposal List
Ms. Adams: Good morning Supervisors. Before I go into some of the content of the report that was included in the agenda packet I do want to recognize from Community Watch Solutions we have the CEO Garold Williams with us. Good morning and Happy Veterans Day to you. Thank you for your service. We also have John Cruz with us that manages the account here at Lake Ashton. Would either one of you gentlemen like to come up and provide any information to the Board regarding security operations?

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Mr. Williams: Good morning.  A couple of things that we have going on since the last we met. One thing that I want to bring up real quick  was  the  promotion of one  of our security officers Michael Queen. He has elected to take a course in security called the Certificated Protection Officer course which goes over a long list of training topics anywhere from basic security operations to anti-terrorism to physical security.  This list is very long on thisthingso he studied quite a bit for a long time, passed thatcourse with what I believe with a 91 % so he was promoted to Corporal. We are very proud of him. The pool attendant detail that will be starting I want to say next Saturday. So we have two security officers that we have hired and are in the process of training to take care of the pool for that season.
Ms. Adams: I also wantto thank John. He was in attendance for the active shooter training that was provided by Lakes Wales Police Department this past Monday. We had over 100 attendees who sat through that training. I appreciate John beingthere to ensure continuity and consistency.
Mr. Ference: Tricia, excuse me I didnotmean to miss new business before we get into monthly reports. I should have probably stopped and asked if I could bring up something before we go through the monthly reports. Is thatunder new business? Ithas been brought to my attention that Larry Maxwell has lost his interest in Lake Ashton because of the MX situation is contemplating divesting himself of the properties that he still controls. The property across the street, the RV garages and even the golf courses. By a very reliable source I have been told that he would like to do this ASAP and wants to retire and be rid of Lake Ashton since he has lost his golden egg sort of speak. So having been apprised of that prospect I think instead his bidding out or selling to the third party, I think it behooves us to consider forming a committee to find what the fair marketvalue might be for the property across the street, the RV center and even the golf courses so that we may enter into a prospect that we control these properties going forward instead of having a third party come in over which we would have no control. I think the first step would be to try to find out exactly what the fair market value is for these properties and then we might consider the next step.  I would just hate to be left in

the dark to have all the sudden find out Mr. Maxwell has sold these properties to a third party and we would have lost control over the resource center, the sale center etc. etc. I am proposing that the Board consider forming a committee to search out and see what the fair market value of these properties might be so we would not be caught in the dark. Mr. Costello: The cost of that golf course, two golf courses I think are going to be astronomical. They are going to be very high. I don't see  a problem with looking at it but by the same token I think we are looking at major amounts of money. It is something that is going to take a lot of consideration as to how we are going to be able to afford to
consider something such as that.
Mr. Ference: Well maybe then we should separate the golf courses from the property that is more directly involved with across the street. It has come to my attention and then again the profit margin in a golf course is minimal. The income just about provides for maintenance. That being the case Mr. Maxwell has really no intention of wanting  to  maintain  a  property  that is not profitable.	So the sale price to us might surprise us. No matter what may be a fair value of the golf course going forward, if it indeed becomes part of a package deal to get control over everything in our jurisdiction? I would not discount the search because we know how expensive golf courses are because in this case I think I was reminded that the golf course turned in about a $20,000 profit last year. Having created over $1,000,000 it is because of the expense of running a golf course so Mr. Maxwell is not really interested in maintaining such a marginal income for such a great expense. He may be inclined to make us a deal on the golf courses if we have it in mind to manage the other properties. I think we should be of one mind to say that we really would like to be masters of our destiny and not have third parties come in and decide to put whatever it is in the sales center instead of what we would like to see there.
Mr. Costello: I honestly agree with you on that but like I said I think that we are going to have to separate the golf course from the other amenities only due to the fact that two golf courses I thinl< we are looking at major money.

Mr. Ference: I don't mean to make that a package deal. I am just suggesting we determine fair market value for three properties. We have no one going out to bid all we are doing is investigating what might be the property value.
Mr. Costello: I agree with you.
Mr. Ference: Then go no farther. I am not implying anything else.
Mr. Flint: This is a pretty big topic. We do have experience in some other districts where they have purchased golf courses or they have purchased amenities from the developer. Committees are problematic for a government entity because of the Sunshine Law but you may want to start by designating the Chair or another Board member. First we have to find out if we have a willing seller. We have it on good authority.
Mr. Ference: Not only that but we have a 2019 date that we might expect to go no further. I have been told with authority as one can get without speaking with Mr. Maxwell.
Mr. Flint: I think the discussion has to take place with him or his designee to make sure that they actually intend to sell. I don't doubt what you are saying. Then probably negotiate a right of first refusal or an option or something like that to give you enough time. You are going to want to hire an appraiser. You want to get a professional appraisal not a lay person appraisal. There is a process there and maybe the start is meeting between now and December with Mr. Maxwell or his designee and then having it on the December agenda. Then you would have some concrete stuff you could act on. Just my suggestion. Mr. d'Adesky: I would have concern on that. We just dealt with a District last year  where they were thinking about buying a golf course and we got a special appraiser that really focused on golf courses. There is a lot of heavy capital expenses so that $20,000 might be very misleading. The $20,000 this year but he put off those capital expenses he needed to pay for and all the sudden you have $100,000, $200,000 or $300,000 deficit coming down
the road where you have to do something major. We have had it done in other Districts. Mr. Ference: I don't want the complication of the golf course to diminish the fact      that we would like to control the property across the street and the RV park because they do generate income and they are very visible to us. The last thing we want is a hot dog stand across the street if a third party should happen or whatever, shoe shop, we want to

control what happens across the street. As a matter of fact I have been going out there and looking and it was suggested to me that a parking lot there would be a great area. We are short on parking. It would be greatfor a parking lot. I never considered that but someone said to me, Bob, wouldn't it be neat if we owned that property and that parking lot then we could create whatever for parking. I said great idea. My point is we don't want to combine all of this and say we can't do it because of the golf course. That is not my point. My point is that there is some great things to be said about controlling these areas that impact our lives. The golf course doesn't impact all our lives so let's not cloud the issue with that, telling us how expensive it is going to be, let's not go there.
Ms. Pontious: I think we need to move forward with validation of your information first. We have an attorney. We have a management company. They can do that for us and bring back the information to make sure of that.
Mr. Ference: I did not see this information. It came to me and I was hesitant because I don't have a great history but having said that I promised to bring this information to the Board. What you do with it is up to the Board. I do think it behooves us to want to maintain control of our destiny when it comes to property that is available to us on this property.
Ms. Pontious: I think sharing that information with them gives them the opportunity now to make the contact and say we understand.
Mr. Costello: Bob, I totally agree with you and I make a motion that we ask our management company to contact Mr. Maxwell and find out what the intentions are.
Ms. VanSickle: Second.
Ms. Pontious: Do we need a motion?
Mr. Flint:   Yes, and you want to take public comment before you vote since it is not on the agenda.
Mr. d'Adesky: One other thing I will say just for the record, going down in the future this would definitely be something that would behoove the District to have in their joint conversations with CDD II because a lot of these assets are in the CDD II area. So just be mindful. That is all.

Ms. Pontious:  George says because this is an agenda item we can vote on this, but before we need to vote we need to take audience comments.
Mr. Flint:  Or I don'tknow if a motion is required Andrew. Mr. d'Adesky: Is it just direction for him to look into it?
Mr. Flint: You are directing us.
Mr. d'Adesky: You don't need a motion.
Ms. Pontious:   So we don't need a motion.   We don't need audience input then. We are just going to direct them to find out the validity of the information and how you want to move forward with it.
Ms.  Adams:    Thank  you  getting  back  to  the  Community  Director  report  and staying along those lines of security discussion, I will  mention that attached to the back of the Community Director report is an update on quarterly totals for security so that you have an idea of the year to year quantitative information regarding the number of guests that are registered, the number of vehicles that are processed incoming at Thompson Nursery Road as well as the identification cards that are issued. I will mention that in September we had a pretty good number of people register who were seeking shelter during Hurricane Irma. Many residents opened up their homes to other family members and friends who lived in coastal Florida. So we had a little increase there. Also attached to the Community Director report is information regarding ballroomrentalfor the month of October. This month I have also included a surplus list. This is an action item for the Board. We have some point of sale system that is no longer in use. We also have some faded umbrella, a broken pressure washer, some other broken equipment, and an old telephone system so these are items that are scheduled for surplus. We do need a motion from the Board to approve this list. In the past we have sought out the pet play park to donate the umbrellas too if they would like those. We will take that action again. For the electronic equipment we have typically worked with the charity organization in Orlando that student training on the electronics. That is typically a place that we dispose of electronics. There may be some minimal value if we recycle some of this metal equipment. We will seek out all of those options.

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Mr. Ference: A motion to dispose of the surplus equipment. Mr. Deane: Second.

On MOTION by Mr. Ference seconded by Mr. Deane with all those in favor dispose of surplus equipment was approved.

Ms. Pontious: We have a motion from Bob and a second from Borden to appropriately dispose of the surplus equipment. Further discussion? All those in favor.

Ms. Pontious: Storage being at a premium we don't have much choice then to get rid of things as quickly as possible.
Ms. Adams: A couple of things have come up since the community director report was published a week ago. I have been contacted by Tampa Electric Company regarding the status of the light fixtures for the street lights. We should in scheduling a week from now so I will be able to have a firm date on when installation will start with the single fixture street lights. We are hoping to have that accomplished by the end of the calendar year. Also I have had a Supervisor request regarding the restaurant days of operation. Right now the restaurant is open Tuesday through Saturday. The restaurant has not been open on Mondays since May 15th. As Supervisors are aware there is discretion on the hours of operation according to seasonal changes or according to operational considerations or other special events. Historically Mondays have not been a busy day for the restaurant primarily because it just tends not to be as busy of a day here at the clubhouse in terms of restaurant operations. We do have a large number of people that do come to attend bingo. Once those doors are shut at 6:00 there is really no patronage to the restaurant. When residents drive by they assume that there is no availability because there is no parking places so they have been closed on Mondays. I do believe that one Supervisor would like to, am I characterizing this correctly, Mike, that you would like to see the restaurant open on Mondays?
Mr. Costello: What I said to you, I had been questioned by quite a few people as to why summer hours were going on in October and November. If this is the answer I really think that we should make some kind of amendment to the contract that they have. There is a lot of things in that contract that just I don't know that they bypass for some

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reason. My understanding is that there are people out there that who want to know why it is closed on Mondays.
Ms. Adams:   It has been both a seasonal as well as an operational consideration. What I found withthe tenants that they are eager to please the Board so if it would be a Board request, I am seeking input from Supervisors here.
Mr. Costello: Bingo isn't going to go away on Mondays. It is going to be there through December, January, and February and on and on. The only time that we are really going to have ample parking for anybody who wants to go to the restaurant is in the summer. We agreed that they could do a five day operation in the summer. These are a few other issues I thinkwiththerestaurantthatneed to be looked at but bythe same token I have been asked by several residents as to whythey are not open six days a week.
Mr. Deane: I thinl< they should be open six days a week is what the contract says. Ms. VanSickle: This along with all our contracts need to enforced.
Ms. Adams:  I just want to point out that the lease does allow for changes to be made for operational consideration, special events, seasonal information so there is discretion.
Mr. Flint: You all approved that.
Mr. Costello: We are not arguing that but the summer season is over. Winter residents most of them are back. I believe the restaurant should be open six days week this time of year. It is more a matter if you are not open you are not making money. I don'tthink that they have made a lot of money for the timethatthey have been here with us. By the same token if you don't open the doors you are not going to make any money, that is the nature of the way things go. You are simply not going to make money if you are not there.
Ms. VanSickle:  We walk the dogs every night around this building and I believe it was Wednesday night, I don't think there was a parking place. I think there was entertainment on the patio. Whenthey have things people come. There needs to be a little more effort on their part. We are going into our winter season. Our snow birds are back. It will be utilized. People will come when something is offered. If it is not they don't. They just assume go elsewhere. I thinl< the restaurant does need to work on that a little bit.
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Mr. Costello: I think one of the hardest things was Labor Day weekend when they were closed. I realized that they said that somebody had a death in the family or whatever but by the same token they were able to open the other two restaurants. That would have been prime time for them. I would think people would enjoy going to the restaurant over a holiday weekend.
Ms. VanSickle: One issue as long as you brought up the restaurant. Driving through Winter Haven past their other restaurant Slyce and seeing some of the sales that they have going on and wondering why we don't have that for our residents here.
Ms. Adams: Ok so what I am hearing is that the Board would like to see the restaurant open six days a week and some consideration for specials. Alright. Just along those lines, one thing the Supervisors will see next week from the restaurant they are going to be introducing new specials. Instead of seeing the same specials for lunch and dinner, you will see three lunch specials and three dinner specials. That will be starting next week just as an FYI. Also under community director report as Supervisors are aware staff has been working on hurricane repairs. Last month there was a request from a Supervisor regarding an understanding of the overall expenses related to this. I think George probably has some input. The Board has an understanding that our exposure is really capped at what our insurance deductibles are for these different areas. We have three areas that are uniquely insured that sustained damage during Hurricane Irma, the clubhouse, the pavilion and property in the open. Where we are now it looks like we will meet our deductible. I know we will met our deductible for the clubhouse. I know that we will meet our deductible for the pavilion primarily due to the expense of the roof. For the property in the open at this time it does not appear that we will meet our deductible but we are continuing to track expenses so that you have an understanding of expenses related to Hurricane Irma. There has also been a special line set up in the accounting that you will notice Hurricane Irma expenses are charged to.
Mr. Flint: I think Tricia covered in her written report but our insurance policy is probably just like your homeowners policy for wind events. It is 2% of the insured value is the deductible. The deductible for the clubhouse is $71,660 based on the insured value.

The adjuster that came out, usually they are conservative, so he came out and inspected the roof. He recommended a full replacement. One of the main reasons is every face of this roof has received some damage. Some is more extensive than others. He didn't believe that if you tried to repair the areas you are going to see the difference between the old and new shingle. Also there is some sheathing, some plywood that is separated from the trusses and things like that so he clearly recommended that the whole roof ought to be replaced. Jurin came out. They did an independent analysis independent of the adjuster. They also recommended replacement. They provided a proposal back in October I believe. We have been working on trying to get a second one since then. As you know roofers are very busy right now. We just got a second proposal yesterday from Springer Peterson. They have done work for the District in the past. Both of them are in the range of $300,000 for a full roof replacement. Understanding our exposures there is going to be that deductible. It is likely that if we try to repair and not replace it we would still exceed our deductible so our recommendation would be a full replacement. We are working on getting a third proposal. I would suggest if the Board is amendable that you consider a motion for a not to exceed of the $300,000 allowing us to get that third bid. If it comes in lower we can potentially go with them. We have gotten two that are within a couple thousand dollars. The Springer Peterson doesn't include the soffit repair. It doesn't include what are called crickets behind the dormers. They are little dormer structures that allow the water to flow away from the back. So the Jurin proposal is better right now. Our preference would be to go with them unless we get a third proposal that is comparable.
Mr. Deane: I will make a motion not to exceed $300,000 for a roof replacement on the clubhouse.
Mr. Costello: Second.
Mr. Flint: I don'tknowif we need public comment because it was in Tricia's report. Mr. d'Adesky: Take public comment.
Mr. Flint: You want to open it up to public comment.

Ms. Pontious: We have a motion from Borden and a second from Mike to go ahead with a not to exceed $300,000 on a roof replacement. Any Board comment first or any public comment?
Mr. Steve Realmuto: Lot 1031. First of all I want to thank you for taking public comment on such a major item as this. It seems to me that if you are going to do a complete roof replacement you might also consider perhaps upgrading the roof to one that might have greater longevity. I know that in the past some of the Supervisors have brought up the idea perhaps a metal roof architectural style. That might be something to consider. I would hate to see you move ahead and simply replace what you have with the same quality and then redoing accentually what have been in my observation yearly minor repairs. I urge you to consider something perhaps a little more durable. It might cost a little more in the long run. I realize that wouldn't be covered by insurance. It would be a worthwhile investment in the long term. Thank you.
Ms. Pontious: Have we considered a metal roof?
Mr. Flint: This roof was replaced after the 2004 hurricane. It is a 50 year architectural asphalt shingle. I don't know when they installed it if they did it properly or not. We have had issues with leaks around the dormers and those sort of things. The replacement is going to be a peel and stick. I don't believe they did it in 2004 but now most roof replacements it is actually a membrane. You don't use tar paper like you used to use. It is a membrane that you peel the backing off and it actually sticks to the decking. That addresses most of the leak issues. They are also preparing, they are going to build like I said crickets behind the dormer windows which will help avoid leaks there. The only other alternative and I thinl< we are going with I believe it is going to be similar to what we have now. GAF is the supplier of shingles. The only other alternatives would be a tile roof which is the weight and the cost is not realistic.
Ms. Pontious: You have to havethe underlayment to do that which we don't have.
Mr. Flint: Or a metal roof. Architecturally I don't know if that is an option. It is up to you all.

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Ms. Adams: It is a quality product though. It was selected as a quality product that has not only long wear but that would resemble the architectural style of the community.
Ms. Pontious: I don't know either. Has the ARC ever approved metal roofing?
Mr. Realmuto: I am not longer a member of the ARC but during my tenure several requests had come in one from Supervisor Borden as well as others for approval of a metal roof. The desire there was that it be an architectural style shingle. I believe there are metal roofs made that would fit with the community. We are not talking about a flat metal roof. This is something of the same style of architectural shingles. They are definitely available and out there. I think there is an inclination if someone had a sample that the ARC would certainly consider approving jt. It is probably going to be a controversial topic but no better advertisement for seeing it then a metal roof that looked good on the clubhouse. There have been multiple homeowners that have asked about it as well as other roof alternatives.
Ms. Pontious: I knew it had been discussed. I didn't think it had been approved.
Mr. Realmuto: It has not been approved. I had been requested several times, metal roofs and once even for the tessler solar roof.
A resident: I willjust add what I know. The metal roofs for the liaison for the ARC we have had several requests from manufacturers to come in to do a demonstration and show their product. I think it was last week we were approached again about the interest in metal roofing. So there seems to be quite a bit of interest on resident's part for their own personal use. It may behoove the Supervisors to look at one for here. I have no idea what the price is but we can get the ARC Chair to provide the information to get the reps in here if you're interested.
Ms. Pontious: We are with intrusion because of the roof now? Do we have time or is this an ASAP thing?
Ms. Adams: Well Supervisors are aware that we have temporary patches on the roof where the plywood separated from the trusses. They nailed them down as well as they could. There are tarps on other things. There have been times when the tarps need

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to be adjusted especially over the chimney caps. They can pond or collect water and need to be dumped. We do currently have water intrusion to a certain extent because of primarily the chimney caps and we needed to dump those. It is up to the Supervisors. Right now we have temporary repairs and we have tarps to try to safeguard the roof as much as possible.
Mr. Costello: George, what did you say the age of the shingle is they are putting up?
Mr.  Flint:  I  don't know if it is a 50 year.   They never last 50 years.   You are not going to be around in 50 years to know. The warranty probably will be enforceable at that point.  It is a high quality asphalt architectural shingle.
Mr. Costello: That is the same as they say the metal roof is worth what it is worth.
The metal roof cost almost twice as much as a shingle. I know that from prices I got.
Mr. Flint: The District would be liable for the difference in cost between this asphalt shingle and what the metal roof is going to be. So instead of $70,000 you are going to be talking $70,000 plus the difference in cost. It is really a Board decision. Jurin if we end up awarding to them, can start on the 24th of this month, so it is just a matter of which way you want to go.
Mr. Deane:  In my opinion I think if Jurin is a little better than we should go ahead and replace the roof. I see advantage for putting it off to try to put a metal roof which is basically guaranteed the same as the roof that you are getting ready to put on.
Mr. Ference: Is that a motion you are making? Ms. Adams:  We have a motion.

On MOTION by Mr. Deane seconded by Mr. Costello with all in favor a not to exceed amount of $300,000 to replace the roof on the clubhouse was approved.

Ms. Pontious: I think finding someone willing to do it is an issue and being able to find the material because so many things now when you talk to contractors, say I will do it if I can find the materials. So that is another consideration. We might be looking at six months or more to do it. Ok we do have a motion so I guess we need to vote on that. Those in favor of the $300,000 maximum and moving forward.

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Mr. Flint: We will continue to work on these other items that are listed on the schedule and we will update it as we move forward.
Ms. Adams: Were there any questions from any of the Supervisors regarding any of the content in the community director's report. I do want to make note that there is an update included in there under public safety regarding some of the items that Supervisor Costello and I had been discussing so that Supervisors are aware.
Field Operations Manager - Monthly Report
Mr. Scheerer: Good morning. Just a couple of things not included in the report that occurred since it was sent for the agenda package. We have mulch scheduled I believe for Saturday so just a heads up. We are mulching. We are getting ready for our next annual change out in December as well to include the poinsettias at the entrance. We did get a request from the folks that play tennis to provide a walkway from the west parking lot to the side gate of the tennis courts so you may have seen Yellowstone at their own expense remove the sod and installed some mulch to create a nice little pathway to get there. There is a hidden gate over there on the four foot section of the fence that the residents like to use to come from the west parking lot instead of having to walk all the way around to the other gate. We went ahead and installed that. Yellowstone did it at no expense to the Board or the residents. I know it is in my report but we are placing some bottle brushes behind the homes on Aberdeen along Thompson-Nursery Road. Some of the wax myrtles have failed. We were instructed many years ago to try and replace those with some nice trees so we have been installing bottle brush.  With that said that is kind of the update. I can answer any questions you might have.
Mr. Costello: The shuffle board court I know we just had that redone. Somebody had said there is some sort of a problem with that. Has it been noted to you?
Mr. Scheerer: No sir. I will check with that while I'm here and we will take a look at it. I had no indications that there were issues with the shuffle board.

CDD Manager
There not being any report, the next item followed.

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NINTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Financial Reports
Approval of Check Run Summary
Combined Balance Sheet
Ms. Pontious:  Alright we have the check run summary. Mr. Flint:  Any questions on the check run summary?
Ms. Pontious:  We also have our end of year information.
Mr. Flint:  If there is any questions on the check run summary we will try to answer those for you, if not I would ask for a motion to approve it.
Mr. Costello: Motion to approve the check run summary. Mr. Deane:  Second.

On MOTION by Mr. Costello seconded by Mr. Deane with all in favor the check run summary was approved.

Ms. Pontious: We have a motion from Mike and a second from Borden to approve the check run summary. Any further discussion?

Ms. Pontious: On page 3 pretty much has our general fund end of year information. Any questions or concerns about those? Do you have remarks about the end of year?
Mr. Flint: No right now these are unaudited.  They are subject to change.  It will change on the field management fees. That will be adjusted to the extent that there is any audit adjustments during the audit process. We ended the year, we started the year with
$375,477 in the general fund and we added $41,458.	That is after we transferred out
$300,600 to the capital reserve fund. We have a positive ending fund balance.
Ms. Pontious:  We did pretty well on the things that we voted for.  We got carried away a little bit on our lighting, both with pool lights and the stage lights we went over budget. Then we also had some areas that we did not do so that helped compensate for that. So I think we stayed within our allotted amount of money. Anything else on the financials?

TENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	General Audience Comments
Ms. Pontious: We have reached the time for general audience comments.

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Mr. Goldstein: I would like to take this time to answer Mike Costello's question. There is no law saying thatyou have to be at the office but onthe Statute 190.7 and it will take me a minute to read it, the Board shall employ and fix the compensation of a District Manager. The District Manager shall have change and charge and supervision of the works of the District and shall be responsible for preserving and maintaining any improvement or facility constructed or erected pursuant to this act for maintaining and operating equipment owned by the resident and performing such other  duties  that may  be described by the Board. The District Manager may hire or otherwise employ or terminate the employment of such other persons including without  limitation professional supervisory and clerical employees as may be necessary as authorized by the Board. That is by you previous not after the fact. The compensation and other conditions of employment of the offices and employees of the District shall be provided by the Board. Does anybody know the salaries here? Does anybody know who is getting paid where? Does anybody know our managers salary? That is the duty of you folks to know and is the right of the voters to knowbecause that is tax dollars. You can argue the point it is moral and the right way to do things. This management company  was appointed by the developer over 12 years ago. If I am wrong tell me now.
Ms. VanSickle:	You  are  wrong.	I was on the  Board when we hired this
management company.
Mr. Goldstein: Ok whenwas that?
Mr. Flint: There is two contracts.  This is the District management contract which is about 12 years ago but then there is an amenity management contract which Supervisor VanSickle was on the Board.
Mr. Goldstein: I have not one iota against George Flint or his company. I amjust trying to protect our CDD, our residents and our tax dollars. I want to make sure it is done in the right manner. The only way you can do it, handle this job, is as you do the others. Thank you.
Mr. Costello: Do we have a problem with releasing the salaries of the employees? Mr. Flint: If the employees were District employees.

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Mr. Costello:  I understand what you are saying.  We are paying the management company.
Mr. Flint: I don't think that is it proper to have this sort of discussion in a public meeting. We can look at whether we want to have those discussions. I don't think you want to go there but I am happy to meet with each Board member individually and talk to you about whatever questions you may have about our contracts. I can tell you the way we set it up on the amenity management side, the profit margin is very small, almost to the point where it is not worth the risk. We are not making a lot of money on this contract. If you want to talk about salaries that is fine. I would rather do that one on one. If they were District employees that is all public information.
Mr. Costello: I understand that.   Like I said I worked for the government and to this day, to this minute I could tell you where you would go and it will tell you what my final salary was. How long I worked and what my pension is. It is just about to the penny. I realize that they work for you. We hire you but by the same token it appears that some people feel that we have a need to know.  I don't know.
Mr. Flint: I think what you need to know is whether you feel that the scope of work is being accomplished.
Mr. Costello: Every once in a while you are going to get somebody that is going to come to you with a problem. You have to look at their side of it too. What doesn't appear to be a problem to you may be a problem to somebody else. I don't know. We definitely like I said, we hire you. You hire them. So to me it comes maybe under a different scope.
Ms. VanSickle: This is a governmental entity. I was a teacher. My salary was posted in the local paper every so often. I think we have a certain amount of transparency. We are spending other people's money and we need to make sure it is spent to the best of our ability. A lot of questions seem to be popping up right now. I am not sure why it is all of the sudden.
Mr. Flint: Good question.

Ms. VanSickle: I don't have the answers.  A lot of things I don't have the answers and that is what is bothering me.  When I ask a question, either I get faulty information because that is what I have been told or I don't know and I should know and that bothers me  tremendously.   Like I said I  would like  this to  be  a conversation for next month because I really would like to get down to that ceremony.
Mr. Flint: I would like to get past this because these discussions every meeting are difficult for everybody. You have employees that are sitting over here that are listening to this. If there is really a problem let's deal with it. If there is no problem, I have very low turnover in the Districts we manage. When we get hired we do what it takes to stay hired. I don't have a lot of turnover because we adapt. We try to be responsive.  If there are serious issues that need to be addressed, we will address them. That is the bottom line. If we can't address them then we will deal with that too but it is difficult for everyone dragging these issues out over time. It makes it stressful not only for the employees but for everybody else.
Ms. Pontious: I thinl< part of it is dealing with a bunch of nosey people to be frank.
I think we are dealing with a bunch of nosey people. Ms. VanSickle: I am sorry we take their money. Ms. Pontious: I understand that.
Ms. VanSickle:  They are entitled to that information.  We need transparency.
Ms. Pontious: But we don't go ask the pool people how much they pay their people.    We  don't  go  ask  Austin  Outdoors  what  they  pay  their  people.   We  hire  a company to do the job and if we don't like what they are doing we replace them.
Mr. Costello:  I can tell where I thinl< part of the problem is, Tricia works for GMS. Now if you go over to the other side Mary Bosman works for LACDD II.    So I mean if somebody was to go to one of their Supervisors and say, what is Mary's salary, barn they can give them the answer. This is where one of the problems is coming in by virtually the fact that you can get an answer from one side but you can't get it from the other.
Ms. Pontious: It is two different management styles. Mr. Costello:  You are 100% right, I agree with you.

Ms. Pontious: If we hire all of our people then we would have that information.
Mr. Costello: I am saying this is where I think maybe part of the problem in with the West.
Mr. Ference:  We are not the West.
Mr. Costello: And I fully realize that.  You are asking me about why.  Carol made the statement that people are being nosey.  People are concerned due to the fact that you can get an answer from one side but you can't get an answer from the other.
Mr.  Goldstein:  I  am concerned with tax dollars and we are elected and if  you would rather see this in the state legislator or court just like Poinciana has, just keep on putting it under the cover. You want to save this to next month that is fine. There is no such thing as being nosey.  That is the right of a tax payer who elected you.
Ms. Pontious: It is not their right.
Mr. Flint: Let me make this clear.   Today is the first time that I have heard any inquiry about what employee salaries are. So if that is a concern, the way the amenity management contract is structured you are all billed on a percentage of what their actual salary is. That information will be provided. Now to say that things are being swept under the rug or that there is no transparency, I don't know where that is coming from because anytime I am ever asked for any information it is provided in a timely fashion. I would say the same thing for any of my employees so I am happy to meet with each Board member to talk about this to provide you whatever information I can provide you. I don't think it should be a topic of dispute because I have not been asked for that information prior to now.
A resident: May I speak on another topic? I will be very brief. I just wanted to thank Supervisor Ference for raising the potential availability of amenities. I believe that is the kind of forward thinking and future planning this Board needs to set the time aside to do more of.   Thank all of the Supervisor for pursuing and starting to pursue that.   I would like to ask that perhaps that be an agenda item at future meetings and just the topic of future planning.  Thank you.
Mr. Ference: Can I make a motion to adjourn the meeting?

ELEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Adjournment

On MOTION by Mr. Ference seconded by Mr.  Costello with all in favor the meeting was adjourned.

Assistant Secretary/Secretary	Chairman/ Vice Chairman