MINUTES OF MEETING LAKE ASHTON

COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT

The regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of the Lake Ashton Community Development District was held on Friday, July 13, 2018 at 9:00 a.m. at the Lake Ashton Clubhouse Ballroom, 4141 Ashton Club Drive, Lakes Wales, Florida 33859.

Present and constituting a quorum:
Carol Pontious Borden Deane Brenda VanSickle Bob Ference Mike Costello
Also present:
Darrin Mossing Jillian Burns Jan Carpenter Rey Malave Christine Wells Matt Fisher
Numerous residents

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS

Chairman Vice Chairman
Assistant Secretary Assistant Secretary Assistant Secretary

District Manager
Governmental Management Services District Counsel
District Engineer Community Director Field Operations Manager

Roll	Call	and	Pledge	of Allegiance

Ms. Burns called the roll and established a quorum was present and Ms. Pontious
led the pledge of allegiance.

Ms. Pontious: I will apologize in the beginning here and make a couple of changes. July meetings for us are typically rather routine and not very long. I have a flight to catch and I need to leave at 11:00 and that is looking like that is not a good thing. So we are going to move a couple of the voting items up so #7, #2 and #3, which will require votes, we are going to move up until after the engineers report. At 11:00 a.m. I am going to have to go and Borden is going to take over.

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS

Public Comments on Specific Items on the Agenda (speakers willfill out a card and submit it to the District Manager prior to beginning ofthe meeting)

Ms. Pontious: We do have some public comments. I have my three minute timer.

The only one that appears to be not golf course is Jackie Perez so let's do that one first.

Ms. Perez: Hi, Jackie Perez. Lot #881. I happened to be at the restaurant last Saturday night for dinner and it is excellent. There was a wedding and there were people walking all over this place. You did have security guards. They were sitting down in the lobby, so therefore again I think this is my twelfth request. Every year I ask for a gate with a card right past the public restrooms. It is getting to be a very large community and we need some protection. Even with guards, they have the freedom to walk in every room beyond the restrooms so I think it is about time we started protecting our assets.

Ms. Pontious: Ok thank you, Jackie. Also the golf course, so we will start. Please try and make your comments brief and let me tell you from the beginning we received the draft copy. It was the company's understanding that with that draft copy the Board was going to take a look at it and get back to them with changes, corrections and information. Then there would be produced a final copy. They didn't think it would be distributed to the public until it was made final. So we have a couple of issues going on here. One is that this is a joint venture with the West CDD, as well, so we are not going to do a lot of discussion on this topic until the August meeting and the joint meeting when we have both Boards present for equal input. So make your comments brief. We will address the comments if we can. Otherwise most of it is going to be deferred until the August meeting when we have the joint meeting with the West Board.

Mr. Jack VanSickle: Lot #573. I will be brief. I will not go into the detail of the report. We can all read it for ourselves. I think it has some concerning information. One of the things that is really scary is the issue that states to be able to make the golf course make a go of it, they need something to entice outsiders to play here. Enticement is opening up this community for every use of our facilities, pool, bocce ball, everything. That is a non-starter in my opinion. People moved in here at that time supposedly a gated
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community. We are a community with a gate because the public can't come in here. Most people understand that, but if you let everyone in here you don't need the gates. So when are you going to be safe then? Not against the golf course being here but to take and use the other facilities to entice people to use is not something I think most of the people agree with. I will leave it at that.
Ms. Pontious: Thank you. Ok, Al Goldstein. I have Dave Price next, Ron Buran next, John Velebir, Trish Safer, then John Castelli, so please be ready.

Mr. Goldstein: Carol, you already took some fire out of my conversation. I am Al Goldstein from Lot #159. I am not an attorney nor an accountant, but a warrior. As a warrior we never go into a battle without a plan. Right now we don't have a plan for this golf course community. Almost from the beginning of the draft it tells us we have to go public to survive, if not we are going to be a desert. That is not acceptable to anybody. Pro-golf course, anti-golf course that is not acceptable. If we go public this will be detrimental to our home investments just as much or even quicker than the threat of some CDD Supervisors and rumor mill that if we don't buy the golf course immediately. This draft gives us maybe a starting point, but no solution and only one alternative that is to spend our tax dollars immediately without a plan. This draft shows no expenditures after the proposed immediate buyout of $470,000 and another $650,000 for immediate so called improvements, that at least some of them are not warranted. Yet other potential expenses and needed improvements are not listed such as the water system, which was mentioned as a possible need and update, but took IGM's opinion as gospel without inspecting. They told us that most greens are ok again without soil samples. These are all potential problems costing mega bucks. NGF talks about softening programs to attract more golfers but some changes can be very costly. These courses were built as links course, not as a parkland course. The difference being a links course is one of nature's friendliest found mostly on coastlines such as Pebble Beach, California. The greens are quick with few trees. Making the courses easier is normally done with the placement of tees, not trees but by spending $40,000 for trees to help golfers guidance will absolutely change the  dynarnitic  o_f  the  course.    I  would  reiterate  that  I  am  in  favor  a  preserving  our
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community with the supposed solution that we are actually private. I also state that I would like to preserve and save our two golf courses but not at any cost. Most of us bought into Lake Ashton for this allusion of privacy and also for the views, friendship, and prestige of living in a golf course community that is actually private and gated, which again I would like to retain our golf courses. First we not only need a buy plan but a true operational and expense plan and a budget for our CDD tax dollars. This NGF draft report gives us no actual costs and no plan, it only tells us if we don't buy we are at loss in a no win desert.
Ms. Pontious: Give us a summary please, AL

Mr. Goldstein: The only thing I would like to see, and I would like to see if before the joint CDD meeting is a town hall meeting. A town hall with one Supervisor from each side directing it and with volunteers from the community to hear their views, not to send out a survey because you really can't hear what the people are thinking on a survey sheet. Most people don't answer surveys. I would call for town hall meetings immediately. Thank you.

Mr. Price: I am Dave Price. Lot #1180. My concern is that in the meeting in May, one of the Board of Directors here said something to the effect that we don't need your ok to vote. We can vote anyway we want to. We all know that. Last night at dinner somebody said our CDD Board is not even going to listen to us. Oh yes they are. I have complete confidence that our CDD Board will listen to us and vote the way we want to, but I think that needs to be reassured. We know the rules, but some of the people here are not up on them so I think that needs to assured that you are going to listen to us and vote the way we want. Thank you.
Mr. Buran: I am Ron Buran. I live on lot #947. I apologize for wearing a hat in here but after being at a dermatologist this week this is a lot less offense then my scalp is at the moment. For the benefit of those in the audience who may have not read the complete minutes I would like to read a short excerpt from page 10. An unnamed member of the Board of Directors said we are going to ask for input and support from the community but we are not going to send out a questionnaire out to every household

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and the majority wins. Input is important but majority does not win. The majority of the people don't belong to the golf course. That is central to the issue here. The responsibly is ours. That does not say that we do not encourage input because of other ideas, possibilities, etc. etc., but let's not forget we are in charge of making the decision, not the majority of the members. It is not a popularity contest. So while we encourage input, we have to be mindful of the fact that we are not sending a questionnaire and the majority wins. We do or we do not, but the majority wants or does not want. Are we clear on that? Now I would like to read an excerpt from the CDD rules of procedure. Paragraph six voting conflict of interest. Would the members present here be willing to raise their hand if either they or their spouse is a member of the Lake Ashton Golf Club? Would you do that? One, two alright. Under paragraph six voting conflict of interest. Generally, a voting conflict exists when a Board member is called upon to vote on an item which would inure to the official's special private gain or loss or the Board member knows would inure to the special private gain or loss of a principal by whom the Board member is retained, the parent organization or subsidiary of a corporate principal, a business associate or a relative including a father, mother, son, daughter, husband, wife, brother, or sister. Subparagraph A, when a Board member knows conflict of interest on a matter corning before the Board, the member should notify the Board's Secretary prior to participating in any discussion with the Board on the matter. The member shall publicly announce the conflict of interest at the meeting. This announcement shall appear in the minutes. Further in the same subparagraph, if the Board member was elected by electors residing within the District, the Board member is prohibited from voting on the matter at issue. In the event that the Board member intends to abstain or is prohibited from voting, such Board member shall not participate in the discussion on the item subject to the vote. It seems to me by definition a conflict of interest exists here and I would like to point out and have everyone look at the chair you are sitting in, it is the same chair we are sitting in. It is not a throne. You are not an emperor, king or queen and that gives you no special right to preside or issue fiats against the majority of this community.

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Mr. John Velebir: Lot #92. I have read the draft report and it does a great job on talking about the market for golf courses and being able to operate them. What it doesn't really cover, which concerns me quite a bit, is what kinds of potential future large capital liabilities we are assuming. They alluded a little bit to the outdated sprinkler system, our irrigation system which is miles and miles of piping and is outdated. They alluded a little bit to the turf grasses which probably need to be replaced. They alluded a little bit to the greens but they don't really quantify the potential for large capital projects in the future which we already know cannot be covered from golf course operations that are going to special assessments on everybody. I would wonder before the final report comes out if you could go back and ask them to try to quantify those things a little bit more. The other thing I would like to mention is that we are treating this golf course as the decision is to buy or don't buy. I would say that there is third option which is wait. The golf course is valuable to the developer to sell his lots. It is valuable to Mr. Maxwell because he is getting $9,250 for every lot that is sold. When I look at the deal that we have structured here if we buy the golf course we are taking on a money losing golf course and he keeps the$9,250 for each house. That is $2.8 million dollars. We really should look at if this has a market value as stated in the consultant's report between$1.4 million and $1.8 million. Why don't we buy it for that? Get the assignment on the$ 2.8 million of fees to be paid and then we end up with a free golf course and $1 million in reserves. I would just like to suggest those things. Thank you.

Ms. Safer: Trish Safer, lot #1015. I think that is a good suggestion. I also think we
could buy the course. We could keep the best 18 holes. We could subdivide and sell off  the other ones to build up to 100 homes. The worst 18 holes we would still have a golf community. We could use the funds from the sale of the 100 lots to fund the updates on the course and to build a second pool outdoors on the other side. We would still have a course. We have reduced course costs and annual costs and we have an extra pool. Just something to consider when you are considering your options. Thank you.
Mr. Castelli: John Castelli, lot #8. I am so scared of what you guys are proposing because I am on a fixed income. I am retiree. My pot of gold is very small. What you
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guys are going to go into is going to make me sell my home that I love. I have been here from the very beginning. I took a chance on this place and now you guys are going to destroy it for me and 75% of the people out here. We are old and on fixed incomes. This is going to be a monster. It is going to eat us up. You are going to talk about adding on at least $2,000 a year on our amenities. It is just terrible. You have so many unknown expenses in this thing. Equipment, hiring a manager, we can't even make money on a restaurant. For goodness sake do not do this. Membership you are saying you have 17%. You got people golfing for free and in two years they are going to be out of it. I don't even like the golf here. I golfed for one year and I left because I hate this golf course. I don't care if we ever have a golf course. You will have so many homes up for sale. Your homes will be worth nothing. Letting in outsiders is ridiculous. That was the whole idea. Do nothing, you will get it for free. Let the management or whoever buys it, let them worry about it. We can get nothing out of this except headaches. I don't want to put my home up for sale. I want you to listen to the people out here. If these golfers want to golf, they pay their amenities like they do now to golf. I golf for $10. I golf for $15 in the winter time. Why are we going to spend all this money? Let it go. Please let it go. That is all I have to say. Please listen to me.

Ms. Pontious: Thank you, John. We will address some of these issues when we get to Item 5 when we talk about the report itself.

THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS	Approval of the Minutes of the

Lake Ashton COD and Lake Ashton II CDD Joint Meeting held on May 11, 2018 and the Minutes of Lake Ashton CDD Meeting held on June 8, 2018
Ms. Pontious: Approval of the minutes, we have two sets. One from our last CDD meeting and one for the joint CDD meeting. Let's take our meeting first, is there any additions or corrections? I want to compliment whoever did these, I think they are among the best set of minutes we have had. They were very well done this time.
Mr. Deane: Motion to accept the minutes.
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Ms. VanSickle: Second.
Ms. Pontious: We have a motion from Borden and a second from Brenda to accept the minutes. All those in favor.

On MOTION by Mr. Deane seconded by Ms. VanSickle with all in favor the Minutes of the June 8, 2018 Meeting were approved.

Ms. Pontious: The CDD II joint meeting minutes. Any corrections to those? Mr. Costello: I make a motion we accept them.
Mr. Deane: Second.

Ms. Pontious: We have a motion from Mike and a second from Borden to accept the minutes for the joint meeting. All those in favor.

On MOTION by Mr. Costello seconded by Mr. Deane with all in favor the Minutes of the Lake Ashton CDD and Lake Ashton II CDDJoint Meeting held on May 11, 2018 were approved.

FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Engineer's Report
Ms. Pontious: We have Mr. Rey here with us today.  He is going to tell us about some engineering issues.

Mr. Malave: Good morning. Just a couple of things. We did a drive around with Matt and Christine and talked over  about five or six different things I wanted to report.  I think we have included and we will go into it later when you look at the capital budget, there is a total in there of $165,000 for roadways and pavement management. We reviewed that and looked at some of the roads that are crucial for next year. Coconut, Robellini, Dornoch, and Gullane, those are the key streets that are next or should be next on our list. We have looked at those and I think that will fall within the budgetbased on costs  today.   It is somewhat  stable.  I  don't think it  will  be too drastic with the price increase so we should be within the budget. Second, I have a proposal that you all have in front of you and a summary from Christine relating to the resurfacing of the parking areas. Just as you do with all the roadways I think the parking areas have never really

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been taken care of. They are in pretty bad shape. A lot of cracking. The question is do you wait until it is really in bad shape and then you spend the money. It might cost you more. Case in point, when we did Limerick, we had to do additional dollars to repair the subsurface in addition to resurfacing so that added costs to it. Under normal circumstances we recommend resurfacing now where it is just a matter of milling and resurfacing. In the memo, if you can see there is two prices from two contractors. The first one, Sun Ray is associated with some of the work that the contractor that we have used previously, All Terrain, they are inter-related. All Terrain does a lot of the construction work of curbs and other things where as Sun Ray is their paving company. We have talked to them and Matt has talked with them to see if they are willing to do a couple more things for us at the same price with no additional cost. Litchfield, there is a depression close to the corner of Dunmore. If youwere to calculate how much that would be, probably $4,000 to $5,000 to just resurface that little area to get it back to the level of normal. So what we are getting out of there is way more than what Seminole has included in their work price. In addition, Seminole does not include striping. Those two things alone and the price of what we are going to get extra from Sun Ray and All Terrain, I would recommend approving that contract to go forward to resurface the parking areas.

Mr. Ference:  I make a motion that we accept Sun Ray Paving contract. Mr. Costello: I will second that.
Ms. Pontious: We have a motion from Bob and a second from Mike to accept the Sun Ray Paving & Construction contract for $69,808.91. Further discussion? Can they do this during the summertime?

Mr. Malave: Yes. I think the direction Matt and Christine and I have talked is you do one side first and then you do the other. Don't do both at the same time.
Ms. Pontious: Ok anything else? All those in favor?

On MOTION by Mr. Ference seconded by Mr. Costello with all in favor proposal from Sun Ray Paving and Construction in the amount of $69,808.91 was approved.

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Mr. Malave: I haven't heard anything but I will just clarify it. Down on the corner of Dunmore and by the golf clubhouse at the intersection where we added the stop signs and all that, as you all probably do remember, maybe Mike wasn't on the Board so there is pictures of the flooding there. This happened maybe three or four times over the last six years. It happens at least once every other year or something like that. The solution we came up with was adding an additional pipe that would go around the houses from the intersection there from the exiting inlets. Now along the back of those lots and tying another pipe into the lake providing two pipes I think the estimate was in the level around $65,000.  This high price is due to the construction.  It is in a very tight area.  You have a lot of vegetation and landscaping that could easily be affected plus you are back behind people's lots. So there is a cost to that and I think we can easily bring it back if the Board would like to go forward with that addition. But one of the things that we can assure other than flooding the street which is not fun, don't get me wrong, we believe it will never get into anybody's house. So anyways I will just open it up for discussion of what you would like to do.

Mr. Costello: The one storm that I remember it was because cars continued to go through there, it was very close to going into the one garage at the last house by the putting green.  Is there anyway that we could maybe pipe something down to that stream on the other side of the Pro Club?
Mr. Malave: Based on our permits it would be very unlikely.  We could approach and see if that would be a way.
Mr. Costello: I just don't see that as being a large amount of money. I would think that we would be able to pipe it under the road and bring it down to the stream.

Mr. Malave: The problem with that is a direct connection to the lake. The water needs to be taken into a pond that has water quality taken first. That is why the viable solution is to that big pond behind the lake along the golf course. We looked at it four or five times.
Mr. Costello: I believe you have. I am not denying that. I would hate the thought that we would have another storm. We had a storm last year quite honestly the night
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that I saw it, it was quite possible it was going to go into the garage at that house and I don't think anybody should have to contend with that.
Mr. Malave:  Here is what I can do. I can pull the drawing that we did. Let's get a new price on it and bring it back to the Board and see what it would actually take today to do it. Look at some of the pictures of the landscape.
Mr. Costello: What was the last price? Mr. Malave: It was around $65,000.
Mr. Costello: That is a lot of money.
Mr. Malave: It is a lot of money for one pipe.
Mr. Ference: Is that the only option, Rey? Have you talked to other people in the business? Is that the only engineering design that will correct the problem?

Mr. Malave: There is a putting green there we could put a storage facility under ground. That could be an area. There are really not a whole lot of places you could try to put some storage under there. That is one of the options. We do it inside the cities where there is no land. It is very expensive putting it underground. We have not looked at that option. That is something we could look at. The problem is there is not a whole lot of real estate there to do a whole lot. The option we came up with is actually an inexpensive one. We are not takingout the existing pipe, we areactually putting a second one on top of the other pipe. A couple of engineers looked at me like are you crazy you don't do that but it is a thinking out of the box trying to minimize costs. It is not going to be very deep but there is a lot of landscaping there. That is the big problem.

Mr. Ference: This is your business Rey and if this seems to be the only logical and · the best long term correction for this problem, can we get bids from other people?

Mr. Malave: We only got one, but we would like to get at least three. I am having just a pipe fixed at another CDD and it is really hard to get contractors to bid stuff today because they are very busy so we are getting prices that are pretty high. They are even not willing to bid it because it is a small project. Small to them, eventhough it is very large for us.  I think we can get bids from three reputable companies.  I know All Terrain will do it and if we can get a couple others we have been using lately and see what they say.
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Mr. Ference: And ask if there are alternatives?

Mr. Malave: Yes. I think the key is to provide additional storage that would at least alleviate the flooding so it is not at least above the ground. I will look atthat as an option.

Mr. Ference: Yes, please do.

Mr. Malave: Ok we will come back with a solution for that or alternatives on that. Ms. Pontious: You did note the two depressions on Dunmore?
Mr. Malave: Yes there is a second one.  Both will be thrown in as part of the freebie.
Ms. Pontious: You need to do it in a golf cart. Do we have any forward movement on the hard roof and the screening of the patio?

Mr. Malave: Yes, and that is my last subject. We talked to some of our architects in trying to get a cost for it. A couple things that it would take because of it being against the lake and an open area even though you might have screens on it, it is still open. The uplift design would be required for a hurricane strength wind. We are talking about approximately $120 a square foot. It is about including the foundation design and all that. So the budget would be about $125,000 to $150,000 for hardwood. They make it similar to the building. You don't want it to stand out like something different. So that is just a preliminary analysis that we have done. I am going to get some pictures of it looked at in a little more detail and see what other alternatives in talking with our architects to see if we can come with maybe an aluminum or steel awning. I didn't want to go that option if that was not acceptable to what the Board would really like. Wind design today is different than whenthe building was designed. That is part of the problem with the cost. Meeting today's rules and regulations increases the cost. I amjust pointing out the truth.
Ms. Pontious: Sometimes we don't like it.
Mr. Deane: Sometimes we don't want to hear it.
Mr. Malave: I will get some more designs and options and fine tune the costs. Then we can try and get some contractors that can hopefully give us some price estimates and see what they say it is from their cost side.
Mr. Ference: Do we have any insurance money that came from the destruction from the original awning?
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Ms. Wells: We haven't approved the final payment for it because I wanted to see what we were talking about with the hard roof, screening and patio. They did include that we could get it replaced. We just got the awning patched just to see how the Board wanted to go forward versus putting more money into replacing the awning if we didn't want to continue with the awning.
Mr. Ference: How much did they pay?
Ms. Wells: I don't know off the top of my head. I can let you know how much it was. There was a price built in to replace theawning itself. The canvas part of theawning.
Mr. Ference: It was a minimal amount of money right? Ms. Wells:  It was fairly minimal.

Mr. Malave: An awning falls into a different set of rules versus a hard structure that would go to the building therefore the design requirements are a little higher. Not a little, substantially higher so that adds to it. You are talking about a column that is going to be a little more substantial on each one of the locations that you have right now. Foundations need to be poured. There is just a lot of little details that is hard to see and when you start using it they are not going to see a lot of the things that are going to be required for that cost. That covers everything that I have unless there are any questions. I noticed there is a hurricane plan, I will review that for an engineering side and go from there. I open it up to any questions you may have.
Ms. Pontious: I think that is all.  We appreciate you coming, thank you. Mr. Malave: Thank you. You all have a good day.
Ms. Pontious: Ok, bowling alley scoring equipment.

Ms. Wells: I sent an email to Supervisors with a quote and it is pretty hard to find someone to quote just a scoring system and scoreboards for the bowling alley. Most people want to just buy a whole new bowling alley or redesign a bowling alley. We do onlyhaveone quote at this time. It was for replacing thescoring system and the monitors. I have been approached by quite a few regular bowlers that there are issues with our scoring system. It will change languages in the middle of it. It doesn't keep accurate score. It will not read the speed of the bowling ball so it is probably time to upgrade that
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system and replace it. It will include the scoring system for all four lanes. The quote I received will include the 49 inch LG monitors that are commercial grade monitors and mounting brackets and installation. The quote was $22,250. I believe the budgeted amount was $25,000 for the capital projects.

Mr. Deane: Yes, that is what it was. No one else has bid it?

Ms. Wells: I have called a couple of places in the area. They are not interested in just doing a scoring system. There was one person with Classic Products that was trying to get back to me.   I told them I needed it yesterday. I haven't had anything as of two minutes ago when I checked my phone.
Ms. Pontious: Do you want to wait for a second bid? That seems awfully high.
$22,250 for 49 inch kind of sort of seems like a lot of money.

Ms. Wells: We can do that.

Ms. Pontious: Ok let's wait for your second bid.   Thanks for doing that though. Ok, so let's go to _Unfinished Business and we will do the Community Watch Solutions.

FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Unfinished Business
Consideration of Amendmentto Contract with Community Watch Solutions Ms. Pontious: Can you explain to us what is going on here?

Ms. Wells: Community Watch Solutions has given us an addendum to the contract to cover the Affordable Care Act.
Ms. Burns: They expressed to us that at the time thecontract wasput in place with the District they had under 50 employees, and they have since grown over 50 employees which would require them to provide healthcare to their employees so they are asking for a contract addendum to cover that cost.

Ms. VanSickle: First of all the Affordable Care Act is nothing new. They should have known this was coming so I think that was poor planning. I don't think they have given us anything that we would be able to identify as an addendum yet. Is there anybody here from Community Watch today?
Ms. Wells: Way in the back.

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Ms. VanSickle: One of my questions was what is this money going for? Is it paying for employee's health insurance?
Ms. Pontious: Would you like to come up and address these or is there another person we should contact to do that?
Mr. Josias DeBois: Good morning. My name is Josias from Community Watch Solutions. I am the contract manager for the security for the Lake Ashton site. The extra dollars that we are asking for is to pay half of the health insurance plan that we are offering our officers.
Mr. Costello: The Affordable Care Act was in place long before this contract was ever written. You _didn't realize that you were going to come under the Affordable Care Act where you were going to be charging these extra charges prior to writing this contract?

Mr. DeBois:  At the time we were not aware of the number of employees that we were needing.
Mr. Costello: You didn't realize how many employees you had or that you were
reaching the maximum where you were going to have to insure these people?
Ms. VanSickle: I consider that poor planning. As a growing company I think that should have been considered. It concerns me that this was a low bid to get a contract and now you are trying to raise it. Another concern that I have is that this document in front of us I also have a copy of the contract. On the contract in the billable hours we have two different rates, $13.50 and $20.50. On this I see $14.50 and $21 .50. I am concerned. Where are these numbers coming from? Christine assured me that when you bill these that she is paying what is in our contract, not what is on here.
Mr. DeBois:  I am not sure what you are looking at right now.  The current bill rate is $13.00 and we are asking for an extra $1.00. That is not what we have been given.
Mr. Costello: According to this it is $14.50, that would be $1.50 more an hour.
Ms. Pontious: That is just for the site manager though. The regulars are $13.50 below it.
Mr. Deane: And $21.50 is time and a half. Ms. Pontious: That is just for the top ones.
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Mr. Deane:  So $13 .50 and $20.50?

Ms. VanSickle: But that doesn't apply to us. These numbers are different from the contract. Then youhave added in the $15,000 at thebottom. I don't think this is adequate.

Mr. DeBois:   I can get you an updated one.  I am not sure who gave you that or sent you that information.
Ms. Wells: It was Garold.

Mr.  DeBois: I will have to check with corporate and get you a different sheet of paper. That is not correct.

Ms. VanSickle: Usually when we have a contract they may come back at contract time and ask for maybe a 3% raise but that goes towards the employees. I think we have some very good employees here. I think our onsite people are very good. I know in the past we have had some concern about the support from the company. Christine tells me that since you have arrived things are improving. I talked to several of the employees, they seem happy with the current situation. This kind of stuff concerns me greatly. I think asking for a 7% raise based on something you didn't plan for, I don't think is our problem. I have a major issue with that.
Ms. Pontious: Get us the information please that matches our contract and then we will be able to deal with it more effectively.
Mr. DeBois: Alright that is fine. Ms. Pontious: Thank you.

Mr. DeBois: Thank you guys. Mr. Deane: Thank you.

Consideration of Agreement with Vivonet for POS System Ms. Pontious: Ok, Christine.  What about Vivonet?
Ms. Carpenter: This is the POS system that has not worked. The District has tried contacting them several times in an effort to negotiate or discuss with them. We have not heard from them. The next step would be for us to send them a termination letter and  then at that point we would either be without a contract or we can negotiate something

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but we are really at a loss since they won't return calls to do anything other than send a formal letter if that is ok with the Board. I think that is what we have to do next.

Ms. Pontious: That was Christine's issue from the beginning.  She tried diligently to reach them and I understand Jill has too, and yet we are paying $200 a month for communication services.

Ms.  Carpenter:   So we will send a formal demand letter and make sure we have the facts correct with Jill and Christine and get something out next week so we can  get this started and completed.
Ms. Pontious: You might want to address also that the contract is in the name of Fire. Christine tried to contact them and they didn't want to talk to her because she was not part of Fire.

Ms. Carpenter: That was a number of the factual issues which we don't want to say too much on the record if it does get to be disputed, but there are quite a bit factual issues that we need to raise with them.	
Ms. Pontious: And you are aware of those?
Ms. Carpenter: Yes. Staff has kept us very well informed.

Discussion on Fiscal Year 2019 Budget
Discussion on Fiscal Year 2019 Capital Proj ects
Ms. Pontious: Ok, getting closer to our 2019 budget.  Christine gave us a new sheet today with some changes. She has taken out fitness center equipment as number one. Do you have these marked on yours?
Mr. Deane: Yes they are marked.

Ms. Pontious:  And digital thermostats, because those were researched further and found to be not necessary. She has added a couple of things. One is the activities desk upgrade. Two is the clubhouse and gatehouse camera system upgrade. Three is a door replacement. So would you like to tell us what you have in mind for those?

Ms. Wells: We added the activities desk upgrade. The desk has some limitations right now. A space behind for staff and volunteers and just space in general so I reached activities desk options that can be customized to work with our current situation. They
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are around $6,000 to $8,000 so I propose that we add $8,000 for an activities desk upgrade, something that will be more functional for staff and for the space. Clubhouse and gatehouse camera system upgrades, that price there includes the addition of cameras at the clubhouse and upgrade of some of the cameras at the gatehouse and clubhouse to a HD quality where we can get more visuals from the cameras. Facial recognition can be challenging with some of our cameras right now as they have been damaged for any such reason, we replace them with an HD camera but there are still some that are original. As you know I don't like to replace something unless it breaks so we are waiting until they break down and we will replace it with HD. This price includes the addition of some cameras and the upgrade of the cameras that aren't currently HD .
Mr. Deane: How many new cameras, Christine?

Ms. Wells: I believe it is six and it also includes a larger DVR system to support the additional cameras. I built in the cameras to replace the existing cameras for $279.50 each so we just identified the cameras that currently aren't HD and gave a number for those as well. The final thing was a door replacement. As you can see the entrance to the west parking lot is one that is primarily used by residents. The bottom of the doors are starting to rust. That is for both doors leading to the west parking lot as well as the door we call it the pool/ patio closet. That is by the restaurant patio area. There is a closet there. That door is starting to rust as well as the door leading to the east parking lot that is highly used that we have had some locking issues with so that door may not need to be replaced, but I included it just in case it does need to be replaced.
Mr. Ference: So you are replacing 4 doors.
Ms. Wells: I kind of go a little higher sometimes just to make sure that we are covered. Of course we wouldn't use it all if we didn't need it. Those are the only changes that were made to the capital project list.

Mr. Costello: I have a question on the camera system. That is simply the addition of cameras and we are upgrading to the HD. The one time the bingo incident that brought us fame, we should try to do the best we can with the cameras.

Ms. Pontious: The gate entry system, are we working on that?
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Ms. Wells: We are.  I still have it as a to- be-determined because I figured we would talk about it at the August meeting. I know that doesn't lend us much time since we are adopting the budget before the joint meeting. I am not sure where we want to go with that. Do we want to put a number in there just in case or just table it to the 2020 until we can get more discussion? I was leaving that up to the Board. There is a lot of different ways we can deal with that.

Ms. Pontious: Ok, so we will do that as a joint meeting item and see if they have any plans to do anything with theirs. Does that sound alright? Ok. Anything else that you think should be added or deleted? I think Darrin or Jill did make adjustments in our regular budget to cover the things that we knew we were already over on so that has also been done. Anything else?

A resident: You were talking about replacing those doors. If they just need to be sanded and painted it saves a lot of money. I would suggest you get fiberglass doors, they will last a lifetime. They hold the heat and they are the same amount of money as the steel doors. The other thing was your cameras, are they going to be wide angle and are they going to have night vision?

Ms. Wells: I will check on the wide angle part. I know that night, I don't think it is night vision but there is enough lighting around the clubhouse to where you can still see. I had to look at cameras at nighttime and you can still see images. They are fairly good cameras. They get upgraded each year. There are 4K cameras up right now where you can probably see every freckle on someone's face but I am not sure if it is actually considered night vision. I will check on the wide angle as well.

A resident: I had night vision at my education center and it looks wonderful. Ms. Wells: Ok.
Ms. Pontious: Ok let's pick up the rules, Chapter III that I was supposed to work on with Christine. I gave you a sheet this morning. I apologize for it being late. I couldn't get it to print at home so I had to do it here.
Mr. Ference: Excuse me, do we need a motion to accept the capital budget changes? Ms. Pontious: No, it is just talking.
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Mr. Deane: We haven't adopted it yet.

Ms. Pontious: We were concerned about usage of the clubhouse which is what got us started on this. I broke it into two situations. One was personal use for residents and one was business use for residents. Some of the verbiage is the same. I took out some things that I thought were redundant. Basically it is saying that it is for Lake Ashton residents and their immediate family. It defines the immediate family. If they want to reserve something and they have more than 50 residents from outside who are non­ residents then they pay a half fee. No fees will be charged for a memorial service. The last one we voted last time and then I kind of had a feeling that we thought we made a mistake so if we want to reverse what we did, the fees for resident business shall be charged at a rate equal to the non-resident rates so not giving anybody a break on that. Any problems with that? Ok then.
Ms. Carpenter: On the rules, are we proposing to make these changes or are these proposed to consider because we do have to notice and publish.
Ms. Pontious: I have some more here, too, then we will do them all. Ms. Carpenter: Ok, perfect thank you.

Ms. Pontious: Christine has been researching what other people charge for similar facilities. I am just looking at that same rules Chapter III. She would like to raise the room rental fee for basically the summertime fee from $1,000 to $1,250. The wintertime fee from $1,250 to $1,500. Leave the other rooms at $200 and she would like to raise the Monday Coffee up to $150, not that they would always be charged that but right now it is up to $100. We have had some issues with security deposits not being enough to cover some damage so she would like to raise that from $500 to $800. They do get that money back if they are nice to us. If they don't, they don't. Everything else in the document would remain the same. Those are the changes. We do need to post this before we can actually vote on it, correct?
Ms. Carpenter: Correct. I would suggest that the security deposit be up to $1,000 so then if you have something large you have discretion to make it a little bit higher.
Mr. Deane: Instead of $800 up to $1,000.

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Ms. Pontious: Is everybody ok with that? Ok She checked with Lake Eva who is one of our prime competitors and looked around at some other places. She feels that these are in line and we want to get what we can to cover our costs and expenses for doing this. Those are the suggestions.

Ms. Carpenter: If the Board is good with that we need a motion to approve the change to the rule to set up a public hearing after it is advertised.

Mr. Deane: Motion to change the fees as suggested in rules Chapter III. Ms. VanSickle: Second.
Ms. Pontious: We have a motion from Borden and a second from Brenda to alter the rules. Is there any further discussion?
Mr. Deane: Do we have to set a meeting?

Ms. Carpenter: The second part, I would ask you to reframe that so we will bring back a resolution to ratify that motion and also set the date of the public hearing. When is your budget meeting? Does that give us enough time?

Mr. Deane: It has to be September.
Ms. Carpenter: Set it for the September meeting date so if you wouldn't mind reframing the motion to adopt a resolution, adopting the rule and setting a hearing for the September meeting.
Ms. Carpenter: Thank you. We will bring back the resolution for you to sign at the next meeting but it will say exactly that. It will be in the form you have done in the past.
Ms. Pontious: We have not seen Jan for a while. We have had Andrew with us and we appreciate her coming today and being part of our group.
Ms. Carpenter: Thank you. I missed everybody, I am glad I am back.

On MOTION by Mr. Deane seconded by Ms. VanSickle with all in favor the changes to the fees in Rules Chapter III were approved and the rules hearing was scheduled for September 14, 2018 at 9:00 a.m. at the Lake Ashton Clubhouse Ballroom, 4141 Ashton Club Drive, Lakes Wales, Florida 33859.

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Discussion of National Golf Foundation Report

Ms. Pontious: Ok, Jill and Darrin have been working on this National Golf
Foundation Report so which one of you would like to begin?
Mr. Mossing: Madam Chair we are both continuing to review that report and we were recommending that any in-depth conversations be continued to your joint meeting on August 10th.
Ms. Carpenter: If you would like I will add in Andrew and I have said we wouldn't spend any legal time until we got close but I think at this point we should review quickly just to make sure there is nothing in any of the options that would be in violation of the bond covenants. I think it is probably premature, it will just be a tiny bit of time, but I just wanted to be sure that we stayed up to speed with some of the proposals.

Ms. Pontious: Ok. I think residents are anxious to have input and I think that needs to be done. Do we just have one Board member from the West here? Jim, are you here?
Mr. Deane: Stan is here.

Ms. Pontious: Doug is back there, too. In fairness to the whole situation I think we probably need to wait until after that meeting and decide what we need to do based on the meeting to move forward with town hall meetings or input from residents however we decide to move forward with that. Is that acceptable?

Mr. Deane: Yes.

Ms. Pontious: We are going to do it, it is just a matter of getting the information so that we know what we are talking about. So far that has been the process just collecting information.
SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	New Business	and Supervisors
Requests
Acceptance of Audit for Fiscal Year Ending September 30, 2017
Ms. Pontious: Acceptance for the audit for the fiscal year ending 2017.

Mr. Mossing: That document was enclosed in your agenda packet. We will ask the Board for a motion to accept that audit report. If the Board has any specific questions about the documents I would be happy to address those. There are some letters from the

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auditor in the back of that audit that basically states that they found nothing that we were out of compliance with and that they have no issues with our internal controls. If they had any issues to report to the Board of Supervisors there is another management letter report there and they have no comments on that for fiscal year ending September 30, 2017. So it is a clean audit and if the Board has any questions I will be happy to address them. If not, we ask for a motion to accept it.

Mr. Deane: I thinkit is great. It is the cleanest audit we have had that I have seen.
I make a motion that we accept the audit report.

Ms. VanSickle:  Second.
Ms. Pontious: We have a motion from Borden and a second from Brenda to accept the audit report. Is there any further discussion? All those in favor?

ON MOTION by Mr. Deane seconded by Ms. VanSickle with all in favor the audit for fiscal year ending September 30, 2017 was accepted.

Discussion of Hurricane Prep Plan (requested by Supervisor Costello)
Ms. Pontious: Hurricane Prep Plan. I believe that Christine and Mike have been working with Mary and Jim.
Mr. Costello:  We did.  Mr. Mecsics quite honestly came up witha really good plan that even he admitted took it from the government. It is very simplistic. If you read through it, it is merely putting a checkoff list together as far as when you know you are looking at an impending storm with thenext X amount of hours you are going to do, the next X amount of hours you are going to do that.  I do agree it is very well written.  It is very easy to follow and I think that both CDDs should look at it and adopt it as what we are going to do for hurricane preparedness, maybe at a joint meeting or we can just adopt it here. I think that the two of us running on the field more or less it is going to make life a lot easier because everybody is going to know. The only other thing there is the fact that we have the robo call systemwhich Christine I know put a test out about a week or so ago. I was with her when she put it in at about 4:30 and I got the notice on my phone

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about 6:30. It was about a twohourdelay. I would like tosee maybe somebody contacted because it goes through the HOA and I would like to see if we could contact somebody from the HOA and see if we can do something where it is more or less put out immediately.  Situations that we are going to need it and time is of the essence.  We really need to move forward with it.

Mr. Deane: That works a little bit like email except it ison the phones. I don't think it is the HOA holding it up.

Mr. Costello:  I don't think it is the HOA. I think it is whoever the company is that is doing it.
Mr. Deane: The company that does the robo calling. I don't know if you are going to be able to speed them up. That is my only point.
Mr. Costello: Well it wouldn't hurt to look into it. Mr. Deane: Right.

Mr. Costello: We can always look into it.  If we can great.  If we can't, we are just going to have to be aware of the fact that the minute we get some sort  deferential news we have to put out a robo call in order to get it to people as quickly as possible.
Ms. Pontious: Are we sure that system will work during down time?

Mr. Costello:  I was always told there is nothing assured in life but death and taxes. No we are not. Quite honestly we are not. The only thing there is anything is worth a shot at any given time.
Ms. Pontious:  You do what you can.

Mr. Costello: Exactly. We always had backup systems at work if power went down or this went down. You do what you can do but in the interest of being able to pass information along as quickly as we got it I think that it is a good system, at $20 a month it is a bargain.
Mr. Deane: Right.
Ms. Pontious: Wehaven't had a lot of time to review this. Do you want more time before we approve it?
Ms. VanSickle: Do it at the joint meeting.

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Discussion of Rules Chapter III (requested by Supervisor Pontious) This item was discussed earlier in the meeting.

SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Monthly Reports
Attorney
Ms. Pontious: Ok.  Jan, do you have anything else for us?

Ms. Carpenter:  We have covered all of our items.  Thank you.
Ms. VanSickle:	I  have a  question for Jan.	Could we address the gentleman's comment earlier today during public comment on the ethics issue?

Ms. Carpenter: What he was reading from was the rule that was part of the ethics law that all Supervisors are required to comply with. The Supervisors on this Board and Lake Ashton II have been pretty much fairly well educated on the ethics issues. If there . is a conflict and the conflict is something that inure to your gain or another's gain, the idea of participating in a community activity is likely not going to rise to that level. If someone is concerned they certainly should ask us or Jill and we can look into specific issues. We and themanager have withus at all meetings a copy of the conflict formwhich is the form that if someone has a conflict you tell us at the meeting and that form has to be filled out after themeeting making it part of the record. Again the ideaof participating or being a member whether that would inure to your gain or loss I think that would be  the same in this case for everyone in the District because everyone will have the benefit in choosing to join or not join, pay or not pay, but if the Boardrequestswe can specifically talk to each of you about it, your individual situation.

Ms. VanSickle: That is what I thought.  There are the two parts and you are either a golfer or non-golfer, but I think that applies to all of us.  I just wanted you to clarify that. Ms. Carpenter: Yes generally the time with a conflict is if you have an ownership interest or contract interest in an entity for example if you are contracting with one of the vendors that are giving business services to the District then you would clearly get a financial gain from that contract. Paying fees to enjoy a meal in the restaurant or paying fees at the golf course to play golf really isn't to your financial gain. You are paying the
same fee as everyone else for that service.

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Mr. Ference: So Jan, what are you saying? Mike and I as members of the golf course are not in conflict?

Ms. Carpenter: It does not appear to be at this time. Even if someone for example, I don't know if anyone has had an ownership interest in the golf course at the time it comes up for vote, you would have to tell the Board about that conflict, file your form and then at that point abstain. As we have told the Board before, if anyone has any concerns, questions, call any of us or the manager beforehand and we can help you make the decision as to whether it is a conflict or not. We understand the golf course is a very sensitive issue. We have had it come up in other CDDs and it is a huge expense and a huge concern for everyone because of the value of a home if a golf course goes away, do you get green space? Do you get a building? If the golf course stays, what is the cost? It is tough to make everyone happy. We understand there may be concerns so please don't hesitate to call me, Andrew, Jill or Darrin anytime if something comes up that you may have a question about while this process goes on.
Mr. Ference: While we are talking about protocol, the statement was made that we should have a town hall meeting and thatthis Board is advised then to follow the majority rule. Is that the implication of that?
Ms.  Carpenter: I am not sure what the implication was, but just like any elected governmental official you have to use your best judgement with the facts with the input you have to make your decision. There is no majority rule.   There is no required vote. There is a very limited exceptions for when a vote is required for a CDD in the public when you are issuing taxes, that is about the only time you have to have a vote. If the Board seeks additional input you can have a workshop for public comment. If that is what you all choose to do but there is no requirement to do that.   One other comment that Jill made to me earlier, and we were thinking that we would suggest for the next year's schedule since Lake Ashton I and II have this year come to some good joint thoughts in planning, it may m�ke sense next year for the meetings of each to include an advertisement that Lake Ashton II Board members could be here and vice versa so if more than one of you attended a meeting there isn't a potential for conflicts since that seems to
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be coming up more and more as you are interested in the others business. It wouldn't be a full workshop or joint meeting but it would cover you if you are all there because we have Board members from Lake Ashton II and this Board discussing things that could come before them so I would suggest we do that for the next meeting. I think we have already advertised the August and September meeting so it would start for your October meeting if that works.  We will suggest the same thing to Lake Ashton IL
Ms. Burns: We would just put language in the ad that would say at this meeting there may be two or more members of the Lake Ashton II CDD. It covers them if someone makes a comment that pertains to that District. We will put language in Lake Ashton II that two or more members of this Board may be there. That way you avoid Sunshine conflicts.
Ms. Carpenter: And it advises members of the other side that their Board members may be here listening so they can listen if they are interested also and vice versa.

Ms. VanSickle: I have one other legal question. We have an election coming up.
In the past when we have had an election, when do the new people take office?
Ms. Carpenter: The second Tuesday after the election, so it depends what day Election Day is.
Mr. Deane: It is the 6th of November.
Ms. VanSickle:  So my concern was, in the past I believe we always cancelled that November meeting.
Ms. Carpenter: You probably don't want to do it this year.	If it is the 6th they would be sworn in at that meeting.

Ms. VanSickle: So that would be alright. They could be sworn in at the November meeting.
Ms. Carpenter: It depends what the date is. If we don't hold a meeting they could be sworn in December.
Ms. VanSickle: No when can they legally take office is I guess my question?
Mr. Deane: The 20th of November they would take the office. It would be the
December meeting.
Ms. VanSickle: So we would still be at the November meeting is what you're saying?

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Mr. Deane: Yes. Ms. VanSickle: Ok

Ms. Carpenter: It usually hits the December meeting just depending on the timing of your meeting.
Ms. VanSickle:  I was under the impression we cancel. Mr. Deane: Cancel the November meeting.
Ms. VanSickle: That was my question. We have done that in the past, is that something we want to do this year?

Ms. Pontious:  We have at times cancelled the December meeting if too many of us were going to be gone, too.

Ms. Burns: It will be an agenda item, the schedule for next year so when that comes up next month we can discuss it.
Ms. VanSickle: I just have to plan ahead.

Ms.  Pontious:   I have one more issue.  In the past we have had forums  for CDD officers coming up and those have been posted by the HOA. I am not sure that they are interested in doing that this year. We do have some Board members that would be serving on both Boards so I don't know if that is appropriate. Can we as an organization find somebody within our community that would be willing to post it and move forward that way? It is such an important election I feel it needs to be done.

Ms. Burns: We have advertised for some of our other CDDs a "Meet the Candidates" forum where we would just basically advertise it as a workshop. That way there are no Sunshine violations.

Mr. Costello: I also believe that it should be sponsored by us in order to show it as a non-partisan, no favoritism towards anybody. I think it would go better if we sponsored a workshop like she said. In this way here it shows non-partisanship.
Ms. Carpenter: And you could do it with Lake Ashton II if you want or just your own whichever you choose to do.
Mr. Costello: I would like to see it done, maybe you could talk to them Robertson and do it as a joint effort.  We have plenty of time.

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Ms. Burns: Should we add that to the August joint meeting in August? Ms. Pontious: Anyone have anything else while she is here? Ok
Community Director

Monthly Report
Consideration of Quotes for Parking Lot Resurfacing/Restriping
Consideration of Quotes for Bowling Alley Scoring System

Ms. Wells: Included in the agenda packet was the community director report. I just wanted to let the Board know that staff is working on - we already have the contracts in place for the Entertainment Series. We are working on going through the list right now to ensure everyone that had tickets previously is still living here at Lake Ashton. We are working on that. We also added 60 extra seats to each show time so that would accommodate 120 more residents to the Entertainment Series. Also I wanted to follow­ up with just a couple of things from the last meeting. You had asked staff to look into hand dryers for the bathrooms as well as maybe a different type of paper towel dispenser. We are working on that. We received an email from Mary on July 10th. She gave me the information from the place where the HFC ordered their hand dryers. About two years ago they were $2,300 for five of them. We are still researching those options and I will bring those back to the August meeting just for consideration. I do feel that there needs to be a different type of paper towel dispenser in there because I feel like a lot of the waste is just from people wetting their hands and grabbing the paper towels and it tears. They grab another one it tears.   They grab another.   So maybe if we can get a more efficient paper towel dispenser in there it would limit that paper cost just doing that.
Ms.  Pontious: You and I also talked this week about the chairs and you said we needed to approve ordering more chairs, but have we done that?

Ms. Wells: I included the replacement of the indoor furniture in the capital fiscal year 2019  capital budget. The price for those additional chairs  is included in that.  So it is up to Supervisors. It is not budgeted for this fiscal year so I put it in for next year. The budget starts on October 1 so that was going to be my first purchase to make sure we get them in before January.

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Ms. Pontious: Well rather than those time restraints we are going to have some money left in this budget because we haven't done some major projects, so how about if we just go ahead and let her order those chairs so that they are here when she is ready.
Mr. Deane: Yes.
Ms. Pontious: Do we need a motion to do that? Ms. VanSickle: So moved.

Ms.  Pontious:   We  have  a  motion  from  Brenda  and  a  second  from  Borden  to approve the ordering of 60 chairs that are  going to match what we  already have.  They are not going to be any softer. All those in favor?

On MOTION by Ms. VanSickle seconded by Mr. Deane with all in favor the Board approved ordering an additional 60 chairs matching what Lake Ashton already has.

Ms. Wells: The last thing I have was I know we were going over the fiscal year 2019 capital budget. Supervisors had requested to look into geothermal systems when we were talking about pool heating. We reached out to our pool contractor. I have information back from when we were talking about solar panels.  Matt and I are going to visit a couple of the communities that have geo-thermal systems in place and just make sure because I know the primary concern with the pool is that it is going to have a constant temperature so we want to make sure that is what you are receiving with the geo-thermal system. When we reached out to Heartland Pools they didn't feel that was going to be achievable with the geo-thermal syst�m so we are  going to  do  a field trip. There are a couple of communities in Polk County that have geo-thermal systems just to get some more research information on that.
Ms. Pontious: Ok again I would just like to say that we have a staff who is more than exceeded our expectations for all that we have been through so far this year. It doesn't  look  like  it is  over  yet  so  stay  with us,  we  need  you.  They  have  just  done  a phenomenal job keeping things together through all this transition of losing Tricia and George and the restaurant, the list goes on. They have really stepped up to the plate so

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we are very grateful to all of you. LouJean gave up retirement to come work for us. So each one of them, Terisa is doing a bang up job back there as a new employee so we are just very grateful that we have the people that we do, including Matt and it is his turn.
Field Operations Manager -. Monthly Report

Mr.  Fisher:    Good  morning.    Included  in  the  agenda  packet  is  the  operations manager's report.  Any questions I will be happy to answer.
Ms.  Pontious:   Our blueberry  bushes look really nice.   They look small but they look really nice.

Mr. Fisher: They are tiny but they will grow.  As you can tell we have a fairly large one but they won't get that big if we keep them trimmed. A couple things, I drove around with Applied Aquatic Thursday and the algae for the most part is controlled in all the ponds.   One of the ponds in particular, Aberdeen pond looks a little out of control.   It is dead but it is floating. The reason is they just sprayed it on the 5th so it is takes a while to sink to the bottom of the pond.  It is unsightly.  I walked the whole pond especially where

it comes up in the back where the cul-da-sac is pretty bad. They are regulated by the state to spray every two weeks. On the 19th they will hit it again. I will follow up and make sure the pond looks better by next month. Other thanthat the rest of the ponds look great. Another area is this median in this west parking lot. Those bushes look like they have died overnight. I just wanted to let you guys know that. I am on top of that with Yellowstone. Maybe I can meet with a Board member and see what direction you want to take with that median because it seems to be an ongoing problem with those hedges.
Ms. Pontious: I am wondering if it would be smart to just let them go and pull them out because we find people walking through things, whatever is planted there all the time. So maybe ifwe just had nice looking mulch there it would be better than having bushes that can't survive because we walk on them.
Mr. Fisher: That could be an option. I was also going to reco�end, I don't know if it is a lack of nutrients because it is such a small soil, but since it is an ongoing problem and an eyesore right now, I just wanted to bring that to the Board.

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Ms. Pontious: Why don't you just have them pull it for now and if we don't like it we can always put something in later rather than an eyesore, let's just pull it.

Mr. Fisher: Perfect ok.  We will get that done.  Other than that things are looking good. We are meeting with Central Window Monday verbally over the phone. They all had vacation apparently last week so we will hash out dates with them and make sure they don't interfere with ballroom activities.

Ms. Pontious: Thank you.

CDD Manager - Discussion of Financial Disclosure Report from the Commission on Ethics - everyone has filed

Ms. Pontious: We also have a document in here telling us that each of us has filed the paperwork that we needed to do so we are at 100% ok. Ok, Darrin. Anything you would like to impart to us other than what has been done?

Mr. Mossing:  Yes. For next month's meeting it will be an agenda item.  One of our roles as the District Manager is to administer the assessments that the District levies, operation, maintenance and debt service. As part of this, the golf course acquisition issue, the properties have been separated this year so that the sales center is now a separate parcel and the maintenance building is a separate parcel which was normally all combined as one golf course debt and operations and maintenance assessment. We have reallocated those assessments and we are going to bring them back to the Board for consideration. Wesent it to Jan late yesterday. I just wanted to let you knowthat will be coming back to you to review and approve the allocation.
Ms. Pontious:   So in the document when they said that the taxes were $160,000, was that number based on before it was divided or after it was divided?
Mr. Mossing: I think they are talking about the property taxes and not CDD assessments. That is one of the issues that is an item that if the District did pursue purchasing, how those debt assessments would be handled.
Ms. Pontious: We would lose those as far as income from them.

Mr.  Mossing:  I think you would lose those yes, or you would end up assessing yourself for the repayment. The RV parking, the sales center is not part of the acquisition
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so those assessments that are allocated, those properties would remain for operation maintenance and debt. It would just be the portion left on the golf course that would have to be distinguished.
Ms. Pontious: Do you know if the property taxes have been segregated as well?

Mr. Mossing: They will be on the November 1, 2018 tax bill. They were not for this current fiscal year.

Ms. Pontious: So that number represents the whole conglomerate, not just the golf course.
Mr. Mossing: Yes. On that note, the assessment which is part of the financial reports, we are 100% collected or 99.6 % collected, so that last payment I believe was the golf course paying their taxes.

Mr. Deane:  That is good. Ms. Pontious: Ok.

EIGHTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
Approval of Check Run Summary
Combined Balance Sheet

Financial Reports

Ms. Pontious: We are ready for financial reports.
Mr. Mossing: So there is the approval of the check register. Mr. Deane: Motion to approve the check run summary.
Mr. Ference: Second.

Ms. Pontious: We have a motion from Borden and a second from Bob to approve the check run summary. Is there further discussion?

On MOTION by Mr. Deane seconded by Mr. Ference with all in favor the check run summary was approved.

Ms. Pontious: As he said our balance statement and all those documents look like they are in good order. Is there anything else?
Mr. Mossing: No not unless the Board has any specific questions.

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Ms. Pontious: Ok, remember that we do have a CDD East meeting on August 10th and then that will be followed in the afternoon by the joint meeting between the CDD East and CDD West. We have times for those yet?
Ms. Wells: 11:00 for the joint meeting at the clubhouse. Ms. Pontious: It will be a long day. Anything else?
Mr. Deane: I have a request. CDD II has the ownership of both dog parks. We have a lot of residents that live on the East that use the dog park and have used the one dog park since its inception. I am wondering, we are looking to collect some money in order to pave the parking area for the dog park that the one on the East uses. I am wondering if it's possible to get a contribution from the CDD to help us with that paving. It is over

$9,000 worth of pavers to pave the front area for parking of the golf carts and cars of the people that go to the dog park. That is something I wanted to bring before the Board.
Ms. Pontious: We had some discussion about comingling funds to do some projects earlier and we were told we could not do that. Where does that stand today?

Ms. Carpenter: The various recreation of amenities are covered by the interlocal agreement and roadways were on a per lot basis. There was that and everything else was on a different basis. You can certainly voluntarily agree if it is something that there was more benefit but I believe that that interlocal was taken into account. The number of homes and the way it was going to be allocated but since this is something new and wasn't discussed, there probably could be some kind of contribution but I think the interlocal really should control in this case since this CDD is maintaining the large . facilities and they have their facilities and there is equal sharing.
Mr. Ference: So be it.
Ms. Pontious: I know that is what we were told before. Anything else?

Mr. Costello: Stan Williams and myself along with Christine and Mary, we have been working on the amenity policy. One of the things that we came up with over the last few days, I was talking with someone from the Democratic Club. Now two years ago they had a candidate for a public office and they had signs out on the front lawn on a Sunday. They are going to be using the room again on a Sunday and they have another

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person coming who is running and I reminded him that we are not supposed to be putting out political signs at which point I was told oh yeah, watch us. Now I know that there is something there that says that if you continue to do this you can lose your privileges for using your room. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to take political sides on this but what I am saying is it is wrong. It is 100 % wrong.

Ms. Carpenter:  Excuse me if I may.  This is a polling place isn't it? Mr. Deane: Yes.
Ms. Carpenter: So we have to be very cautious of political signs for anyone that we follow the Statutes.

Mr. Costello: Well that is not their attitude. Don't get me wrong, I am just telling you this is what I was told. I was told quote, unquote, "Watch us". So I take it that we will see more maybe on Sunday. At thatpoint I hope that we are ready to tell me you are not getting the room anymore.
Ms. VanSickle: It is my understanding that the only time political signs are allowed is on Election Day and that is part of our agreement with the election office.  On Election Day that would be alright but they have to be a certain distance away from the polling area. The rest of the time our rules say no signs.

Ms. Carpenter: I think that is correct and I think they have three days to get rid of them after the election. It is very specific in the election code on top of our rules that don't allow signs.  It is for all candidates, no matter what party.

Mr.  Ference:    I  wonder  if  that  attitude,  just  watch  us  is  fully  aware  of  the consequences of that attitude.

Mr. Costello:  They were told.  They were told that if they do it I will do everything within my power to make sure that they don't get the room anymore. I am independent so I am not trying to put on either party. What I am saying is if it is not going to be right for one, it is not going to be right for the other. If one party is going to do the other party is going to do it.
Mr. Ference: I can't imagine that someone would be willing to lose their membership as a place to meet over a sign.
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Mr. Costello: This was the attitude that I received.
Ms. Carpenter: We can also check with the Division of Elections to see if there is a penalty for a candidate that is putting up signs in violation. We can check on that for you.
Mr. Costello: Not only that, they have done it before. I went past here as a matter of fact, it was the day that I got back so it was probably June 17th and they had signs out for a candidate. It is not right. Sorry.
Ms. VanSickle: I think we need to look at what our amenities policy states. Our amenity policy very clearly states that any club, group or organization that violates this can lose their privileges. We need to say what we mean and mean what we say.
Mr. Deane: Just enforce it.
Ms. VanSickle: We have to be consistent across the board. We have to be fair.

Ms. Pontious: So would you put security on alert that we need to be watching for those please. Anything else?

NINTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Public Comments
Ms. Pontious: Ok, back to public comments. Anyone who would like to speak?
Mr.  Velebir:  Lot  #91.    I  think  I  speak  for  a  lot  people  that  are  here,  we are disappointed that we have an agenda item for the golf course discussion and then we get this weaselly response we are not going to say anything. The second comment is a question about conflict of interest. I can agree that just because someone belongs to the golf course to play, however I think when you talk about people who have a home that  is on the golf course we have had some studies commissioned here that say that identical homes on the golf course versus off the golf course is 60% higher in value and they probably paid a premium for the golf course lot to begin with that there is a financial incentive there that is effecting that person's vote. I do think the case can be made for any Board member who lives on the golf course thinking about the impact on their home value, that is going to be disproportionate to the impact on anyone else in the neighborhood. It should come into play and it should disqualify them from voting.
Mr. Ference: Mike, do you live on the golf course?

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Mr. Costello: Yes. Mr. Ference: I don't.
Mr. Costello: I don't know, I think that is a matter for our attorney to make a decision on. Do you see a conflict due to the fact that I live on the golf course?

Ms. Carpenter: I need to .know more facts from what reports he is talking about. I will look into it because this is not something new to the Board, it is happening all over the state. We will check and see if there is attorney general opinions on the issue or if that arises to a level of financial gain and a change in appraised value is really significant enough to be financial gain or not.
Mr. Costello: Thank you.

Mr. Joseph Volte: I live at 212 West. I see this Board allows people not to give their address, just to give their lot.   I don't know why.   Just because a person makes a comment at this podium does not make it fact. When a person says something and it goes into public record, some people mention about a dollar amount, some say $2,000,
$4,000, they have nothing to back that up, and they are just making a comment, same as me.  A comment at the podium. It is not fact when somebody says my property is going to increase $2,000, my assessment is going to go up $2,000, or my assessment is going to go down $300. It is not backed up by any report, it is just an individual's comment. That is all I would like to say that this Board take that with a grain of salt. Thank you.
Ms. Pontious: Thank you, we are aware of that.
Mr. Larry Hillock: 4286 Berwick Drive. In regards to the hurricane preparation I would like the Board to consider helping us homeowners that live up on the golf course. The trees are not being maintained by the golf course. Last year I ended up paying $100 myself to trim the tree that the golf course owns to get all of those foliage off prior to the hurricane season. I think that should be the golf course's responsibility and I ask your help with that.
Ms.  Pontious: I appreciate your concern. I just don't know what we can do. We have not in the past any control over what they do. We can ask on behalf of the homeowners but we have no authority over what they do.
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Mr. Hillock: Just ask and see if you will support us. Send them a letter or something.
Ms. Pontious: Right. That is duly noted thank you.

Mr. Murray Zacharia: Lot #373. I live 4004 Dunmore Lake Wales. The NGF draft is obviously generating a lot of discussion and people obviously want more discussion but my simple question is for those that take and go through the 70 some odd pages of the same thing being said three and four times in some kind of similar and sometimes different ways for those of us that want to share comments and suggestions with the

.authors, what do you all recommend, the attorney's, management, staff, community director or Board member, what do you all suggest is the best means of individual residents sharing their comments?

Ms. Pontious: My suggestion would be, put it in writing for the joint meeting so that you don't forget. Not that we do that but put it in writing so that you, and if you can get it to us ahead of time so that we have the ability to address it or you can address it at the meeting. We just didn't feel it made sense for us to hash all this out today.
Ms. Carpenter: It probably would make the most sense to send it to Christine or Darrin and Jill so they can make sure that all the Board members see all the comments that come in.
Ms. Pontious: I agree with you. There are a lot of issues that need clarification.
Ms. Carpenter: It certainly doesn't hurt to have them all come in so somebody can put them all together and get those comments. You could certainly think of something that the Board and all of us don't see.

Mr.  Bob Sosinsky:   2200 Stone Creek Lot #1133.   I am going to give you a new topic, mainly overnight parking. The city has an ordinance that prohibits overnight parking. When an RV is parked overnight it is a safety hazard. It is a hazard to the residents in the area. It is not within the purview of the HOA or this Board to call the city and notify them of the violation. I would like the Board to instruct security ofthe problem and have them call the city of Lake Wales with the complaint.

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Mr. Deane: The HOA decided years ago a person has 24 hours from when they arrive to empty and clean out the RV before it must be moved. They have 24 hours even if it is overnight.

Mr. Sosinsky: Within the last month there has been two violations of that 24 hour rule.  Again it is a city ordinance and it not within the purview of the HOA to govern or to enforce any city ordinances. We cannot leave them. I agree that people should be allowed to load and unload their RV's but there is no reason that they should leave it overnight on the street because they won't be loading or unloading at night.

Ms. Carpenter: If there is an issue the appropriate thing is to call the police. If you want to notify security and ask them to call also, but the resident who has the address and information should initiate the call.

Mr. Goldstein: I requested and some others did bringing up town hall meetings or as our attorney said workshops. Do we have to wait for the CDD to call for a town hall meeting? I know a workshop they would have to call it but we only have less than a month before the joint meeting and if we wait for input to the joint meeting we will be putting off again conversations. We cannot really discuss things at joint meetings unless we have planned. So I am suggesting we do call for a town hall meeting and or a workshop. Include the people that are concerned. I know that there is a Supervisor here that mentioned earlier what do we have to do if a town hall meeting or workshop, it is not ruled by the majority. Of course it is not ruled by the majority, it is ruled by common sense. I think we need to have you folks either call for a workshop immediately which I think you would have to give a ten day notice or allow us to call a town hall meeting to discuss this. Pros and cons will only give us the answers. Avoidance will only get us into trouble. Thank you.
Ms. Pontious: We did have at one point three people here, maybe four from the other Board. Is it possible we can ask them their input to that?
Ms. Carpenter:  No.  You can go ahead and set your own Lake Ashton I workshop.
We can advertise that there may be members of Lake Ashton II. Mr. Costello:  Can we contact the head of the other Board?

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Ms. Carpenter: Yes, we can have the manager contact the Chair to see if he will be willing to advertise it.

Mr. Costello: I think that would be the best interest. This way we can move forward with it.

Mr. Goldstein: Excuse me, if we call it as a workshop I can understand that, but if we call it a town hall meeting, why is it that we have a conflict with the CDDs meetings? I don't understand that?
Ms. Pontious: It is the law.

Mr. Goldstein: I understand the Sunshine law but if they are attending a town hall meeting without the supervision of the CDD, at least one Supervisor can come from each one without a conflict right?

Ms. Carpenter: Just one.
Mr. Goldstein: So if we set up an actual workshop then we can invite one to volunteer from each community. I think that is important. When you come up to this joint meeting, things can be actually discussed and decided upon. We can't keep on putting this off time and time again.

Ms. VanSickle: This is too important to have one Supervisor from our side and one from other there.  As a resident and as a Supervisor this is important to me.  We need to all be in on it. We need to do it legally.
Mr. Costello:  That is why I said maybe we should contact Mr. Robertson and see if we can get something going.

Mr. Goldstein: Again another suggestion, maybe we should use this meeting that is already set up for August 10th to have this complete discussion and this discussion only and set up another joint meeting to what you were going to do at this one on August 10th• This is too important. If you think you are putting it off to the new CDD Supervisors coming on board, that is wrong. We need to do this now.

Ms. VanSickle: We need to take this slowly and cautiously. We need to evaluate all of our options. I don't see what the rush is .
Mr. Goldstein: 100% but we have to get it while it is on our minds.

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Ms. VanSickle: It is going to be on our minds.

Mr. Goldstein: One of the things that happens in here we have so many rumors and I guarantee you when we leave this room today there will be more rumors.
Mr. Costello: You are right.
Mr. Goldstein: People are going to say, I am going to sell because you are buying the golf course.   That is why we need these meetings, these town hall meetings to get these things organized.

Mr. Costello: This is why I said I think the best thing we can do is contact Mr. Robertson and set up a meeting. I agree with Brenda wholeheartedly that we are interested because we do have a stake in this. We don't want to have it where we have  to listen to the rumors that come out of the meeting because we weren't the person that was picked from our Board. We want to all be there in order to get it right from the horse's mouth.

Mr. Goldstein: Let's just follow through with what you said.
Mr. David Mueller:  4488 Strathmore Drive.  I have a knee jerk emotional comment and I hope it will hit someone.  A few minutes ago a gentleman mentioned about having statistics. In giving statistics people are making an opinion even though their statistics may not be correct. Well in those opinions I don't think the statistics matter as much as it is the emotional plea that is being made and the point being made. I don't know who said it but it hit me wrong when I heard, take it with a grain of salt. I understand that is not meant in a negative way but I think that even though those statistics may not be correct, never take the emotional plea and the point someone is making with a grain of salt. Thank you.

Ms. Carpenter: We had a suggestion to perhaps set a joint workshop for public comment on this issue the last week in July, perhaps Wednesday the 25th. That is about the soonest we can advertise so we don't have much of a window if the Board wants to do it between now and the joint meeting. It is tough with vacations.

Mr. Costello: Can we look at the 23rd after Monday Morning Coffee? This way we will attract a larger crowd.
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Ms. Carpenter: We can't advertise that quickly. Again we will have to check too with the Lake Ashton II Board to make sure there is availability.
Mr. Robertson: Will the 25th work? Mr. Deane: No.
Ms. VanSickle: No. Mr. Costello: No.
Mr. Goldstein: The 25th has three different things in the community that would interfere.
Mr. Robertson: Does the 26th work? Mr. Costello: Yes.
Ms. VanSickle: Yes.

Aresident: Excuse me. Why is that fellow speaking who is not a part of our Board? Mr. Robertson: We are trying to set a meeting.

Mr. Costello: We are trying to set a meeting up for the good of the community. A resident: Can't you people do it?

Mr. Costello:  No because it involves two things and he is very politely asking us what day works for us.
Mr. Robertson: We have three Board members that say they can make it. Ms. VanSickle: Thursday the 26th. Can we all do it?
Mr. Deane:  Yes.
Mr. Ference: What time?
Ms. VanSickle: What time is available? Ms. Wells: I would have to check.
Ms. Carpenter:  The only question is do you want staff to be there? Ms. Burns: Do you want us to come?
Ms. VanSickle: I think we need staff.
Mr.  Costello:  There  are  questions  that are going to come up  that  are going to involve legalities.
Ms. Carpenter: I would have to send Andrew.  The 26th I am already somewhere.

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Mr. Costello: What about the 30th after Monday Morning Coffee?
Ms.  Carpenter:   Honestly this is really for you all to hear what the public has to say to provide any factual input the Board may have that the public in misconstruing but really not for discourse decisions.  It is really to get everything out.  We would also hope that the public would submit written comments so that if anybody can't be there they can see in writing what everyone is looking for.  Written comments always have more impact than a verbal statement at government meetings.
Mr. Goldstein: What is the matter with Monday after coffee on the 6th?

Mr. Costello: I am good for the 6th. I can't speak for everybody else. Mr. Deane: That is alright.

Ms. Carpenter: Why don't you have management coordinate with both Boards for availability and the day they can get the most people and an available room?
Mr. Costello: What about your office also?
Ms. Carpenter: Andrew or I can be there on any day.
Mr. Costello: I think both Boards are going to need a decision as to whether we are going to have legal assistance there or not.

Ms. Carpenter: One of us can be there on any of the days.  We don't have any dual conflicts in the next month that we are aware of.
Mr. Ference:  Having it after breakfast we are competing with an agenda that has already been established that takes an hour or two. Isn't it kind of a marathon kind of thing? Shouldn't we separate this from an already established programing?

Mr. Deane: It is separated.

Mr. Ference: Well not after breakfast. After breakfast people are going to come  and you expect them to stay for an hour and half after breakfast and then  another  hour and half after that.
Mr.  Costello:   I thought it would draw more people due to the fact that a lot of people attend Monday Morning Coffee and would be willing to find out what is going on with this situation.
A resident: We have done it before. We did it with Spectrum.

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Mr. Deane: The place was packed. Mr. Costello: Exactly.
Mr. Ference: That is fine.
Ms. VanSickle: What dates are we looking at?
Ms. Carpenter: The 26th or the 6th. We have to make sure we have Lake Ashton IL Ms. Burns: We will coordinate with Christine, this Board, and Lake Aston II Board. Ms. VanSickle: You will let us know when it is complete then.
Ms. Burns: Yes.
Ms. VanSickle: I am going to be here for this. Ms. Pontious: Ok, go ahead please.

Ms. Safer:  Lot #1015.  I would like to request you look into adding to the budget handicap automatic bathroom door openers for the bathrooms in the hallways of the clubhouse. It is reallyimportant to people that can't get those doors open by themselves.

Mr. Castelli: Lot #8. Iwas up here before pleading with you. This thing all started from the West, this beehive. Who is representing us the people with fixed incomes? Who is looking out for our interests? This thing is all biased to buy a golf course. I don't see anything in there that is representing 75 % of us out here that are afraid that we are going to lose our home. I made a comment about $2,000 or more that is less than what is really going to happen because the amenities keep going up and up. I came in here at the beginning. Our amenities were a lot less. We are almost full and our amenities haven't gone down. We did a lot of conservative things like the lighting, the well, but with this we are just going to bury ourselves.

Ms.  Pontious:  All we are doing at this moment is collecting information so that you have the ability to make your decision based on fact rather than fiction. So just let us do that. We are not going to put anybody out of their homes.
Mr. Castelli: That is what I am afraid of.
Ms. Pontious: I know you are, but that is not our intent.
Mr.  Castelli: I am not sleeping at night.	Everybody I talk to are in the same position. We are so scared of what you might do.
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Ms.  Pontious:  We are  attempting to  collect the information  to give  you  so  that everyone has factual information.

Mr. Castelli: We know how things go sometimes. Please dig down in your hearts. Ms. Pontious: We hear you, John. We all live here too.

Mr. Castelli: I know. I am afraid.
Ms. Pontious: I know what you are saying but we are all in the same boat. We are sitting in the same chairs.
Mr. Castelli: I am upset because we have no representation for us. Ms. Pontious: I don't think that is true.

Mr. Deane:  You have five people sitting here who are listening to you.
Mr. Costello: We are hearing you and we are going to do everything we can within our powers to make sure that you don't have to sell your house.

Mr. Castelli:   And I believe you.  I have faith in the majority of you.  What scares me is the election coming up. They are stacking the deck against us putting golfers back on the Board, that is what scares me.
Mr. Deane: You have to vote.

Mr. Buran: Lot #947. How can you say that you are here to represent the majority when you have on the minutes at the last meeting per one of your members says, conclusively that the majority does not count.

Ms. VanSickle: That was one person. I can tell you I do not feel that way. Mr. Costello: Neither do I.
Mr. Deane: Neither do I.

Ms. Burns: I believe that comment was in response to somebody being confused reading out HOA regulations about a vote being required and clarifying that no such vote being required is in place for the CDD. That was what the response was in response to, a public comment that was untrue.
Mr. Buran: Actually I would like to read again the minutes from the May 11, 2018 CDD Board meeting.
Ms. Pontious: No, sir we listened to it once.

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Mr. Buran: Ok, this lady does not appear to agree that was in fact a factual comment.

Ms. Burns: I believe that was a factual comment. I just believe that the response that you are reading was in response to somebody reading HOA regulations that outlined percentage of votes required to pass something and they were clarifying that the HOA rule that they were reading does not apply to the CDD.

Mr. Buran: That is incorrect ma'am. I read the entire minutes of May 11 from page 1 to page 20 whatever. This specific comment was input is important but majority does not win. The majority of the people don't belong to the golf course. Less than 25 % according to the golf course foundations latest report which I read this morning. The responsibility is ours, meaning the Board of Directors. Let's not forget that we are in charge of making the decision not the majority of the members. It is not a popularity contest and I will guarantee you if this Board goes against the majority and the majority may not be into buying the golf course. They may or may not be. The important thing is a majority of opinion of the lot holders in this community is more important than somebody's  special interest in voting to further their' own situation.   It says while we encourage input we have to be mindful of the fact that we are not sending a questionnaire and the majority wins. So a town meeting or any other public forum means nothing according to this individual. Then he says whatever I believe is the word of law. If I can convince enough Board members to pass what I want passed. I don't think that is why the electors voted for the people that are sitting in those chairs and once again I remind you that your chairs are the same out here in this hall. How somebody can be in such total disregard of the majority of this community, many of whom are just as learned and probably just as smart as the one person who made this comment who I will not mention by name because in the rules and procedures of the CDD it says I am not supposed to call out an individual so I have not said who this is, but I think if anybody goes back and wants to know that information, they can read the minutes for themselves.
Mr. Ference: I will take exception to that because I am the person you are referring to, but when I say the majority does not rule, if there are 100 people here and 80 of you
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want to do something regardless of the other 150 or 2,000 other people who are there does that majority determine what happens because you are the majority here? Of course not. So just because there is a majority it doesn't mean that the whole population has participated. So the majority could be 5 out of 10 or 8 out of 10 so it may not determine what the other 50 do that are not here. Of course not. My reference to this was that the majority does not rule because what is the majority. How many people are here in this community? So what is the majority?

Mr. Buran: Then your comment included that you have no intention of sending out a questionnaire to every household in order to determine what the majority is.

Mr. Ference: That is exactly right. We are not going to send out to every household. Mr. Buran: Why not?

Mr. Ference: Because we are not sure we are going to get surveys back. People send out stuff all the time, there is no guarantee if we mail out 500 we are going to get 500 back. So we get to 300 and we say that is the majority?

Mr. Deane: Ok Bob enough is enough. Period. Thank you sir for your comment.

Are there any other audience comments? Seeing none. Bob?

TENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Adj ournment

On MOTION by Mr. Ference seconded by Mr. Costello with all in favor the meeting was adjourned.

Chairman/Vice Chairman

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